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#961806 - 08/17/07 06:24 AM SP Hotlinking-Prevention System
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[Thanks to both Cam & Cut for permission to present this idea, as well as your input to develop.]


Ok so it's not really much of a system but I wanted to help contribute something that folks can incorporate into their posts if they want to protect or at least discourage some of those sites out there that automatically 'sweep' our posts for codes. There are a couple of sites that are currently doing so.

If you care to use it, just place this in your normal posts as a regular old thumbnail with the rest of your pix thumbs. The sites that steal our codes will sweep it up with the rest. It might at least give us some more visibility on those sites and let those users know we're here and they don't need to waste their time elsewhere.

I'm too lazy to use it myself even, but I figured I'd put it out there anyways for those who want to use it.

Would love to hear other ideas too!


Here's how the thumb will appear:





... and here's the code to add to your post:


Code:
[URL=http://img182.imageshack.us/my.php?image=visitsuperiorpicsdonthojj9.jpg][IMG]http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/3258/visitsuperiorpicsdonthojj9.th.jpg[/IMG][/URL]





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#961807 - 08/17/07 06:40 AM Re: SP Hotlinking-Prevention System [Re: boones]
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It's a nice thought, as I also know of places that do just that. However, if you put it at the end of a post, wouldn't it be easy for anybody to identify it after the pictures and simply delete the code? Or are you assuming that the people that do 'sweep' the codes don't bother checking stuff like that? Or is that the whole point of 'sweeping' codes, I don't really know.
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#961808 - 08/17/07 07:01 AM Re: SP Hotlinking-Prevention System [Re: Mindcrime]
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It's a nice thought, as I also know of places that do just that. However, if you put it at the end of a post, wouldn't it be easy for anybody to identify it after the pictures and simply delete the code? Or are you assuming that the people that do 'sweep' the codes don't bother checking stuff like that? Or is that the whole point of 'sweeping' codes, I don't really know.





I definitely realize it's totally defeatable ... any additional solutions would be awesome. For the most part I suspect they have automated programs that go out and suck code from us and they don't necessarily bother filtering anything else. But there's certainly that possibility.

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#961809 - 08/17/07 07:12 AM Re: SP Hotlinking-Prevention System [Re: boones]
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For the most part I suspect they have automated programs that go out and suck code from us and they don't necessarily bother filtering anything else.




If what you say there is true, then it could work. If, however, they do scan the code for stuff like that, then you could 'hide' the thumbnail in the middle rather than at the end of a post with a significant number of pictures. The code might not be so instantly visible then.


Edited by Mindcrime (08/17/07 07:14 AM)
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#961810 - 08/17/07 10:07 AM Re: SP Hotlinking-Prevention System [Re: Mindcrime]
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Quote:

Quote:

For the most part I suspect they have automated programs that go out and suck code from us and they don't necessarily bother filtering anything else.




If what you say there is true, then it could work. If, however, they do scan the code for stuff like that, then you could 'hide' the thumbnail in the middle rather than at the end of a post with a significant number of pictures. The code might not be so instantly visible then.




i was thinking exactly what you were..

they will probably 'suck it up' with all the rest and then see that they've posted the SP thing too.. it'll probably be as simple as editing a post, but at the very least, they have to put a few minutes work into locating which code it is and getting rid of it without touching anything else..

at the most, it'll marginally disrupt them, but i still think it'll be worth it and i'll definitely be doing it




great concept boones
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#961811 - 08/17/07 10:15 AM Re: SP Hotlinking-Prevention System [Re: Mindcrime]
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this is just a glorified warning sticker right?

would be nicer if it could be implemented into the actual IV code, so that when the pix are copy and pasted from here, all the thumbs show up like that.
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#961812 - 08/17/07 10:39 AM Re: SP Hotlinking-Prevention System [Re: xaviersteele]
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I've been in the process of looking for a way to disable imagecodes from even appearing in quote messages. I've seen this on other forums and it's a great way to deter people from stealing codes. The other forums that employ this use different software unfortunately, so I'm having a difficult time trying to find something similar for UBB.Threads.
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#961813 - 08/17/07 03:47 PM Re: SP Hotlinking-Prevention System [Re: General RAAM]
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Interesting idea, but why not make it a link to the SP Forum itself? Like this:

Code:
 [URL=http://forums.superiorpics.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php][IMG]http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/3258/visitsuperiorpicsdonthojj9.th.jpg[/IMG][/URL]


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#961814 - 08/17/07 04:04 PM Re: SP Hotlinking-Prevention System [Re: DTravel]
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i'm not exactly understanding what we're trying to prevent here... the images posted on SP are not hosted by SP itself. instead they're hosted on public image hosting services for free. (imageshack, imagevenue etc) SP is not losing any bandwidth here so what exactly is the problem?

if said pictures were hosted on the SP domain of course it would be very easy to disallow remote linking.

again i'm just asking because i'm not understanding the problem.
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#961815 - 08/17/07 04:05 PM Re: SP Hotlinking-Prevention System [Re: DTravel]
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I have copied imagecode (from my own posts, of course) to other forums before, and I can never get the images to actually show (or am I mixing it up with another place?)...the code is slightly different, I think...

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#961816 - 08/17/07 04:10 PM Re: SP Hotlinking-Prevention System [Re: xinx]
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i'm not exactly understanding what we're trying to prevent here... the images posted on SP are not hosted by SP itself. instead they're hosted on public image hosting services for free. (imageshack, imagevenue etc) SP is not losing any bandwidth here so what exactly is the problem?

if said pictures were hosted on the SP domain of course it would be very easy to disallow remote linking.

again i'm just asking because i'm not understanding the problem.


The people taking the thumbnail link codes and posting them on other boards & forums are not the people who are posting them here. If the original poster chooses to use the same post codes in multiple places, that's fine. I don't think anyone has a problem with that. But when someone else comes along and copies those links to another forum without asking, the original poster feels like he's been robbed.

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#961817 - 08/17/07 04:12 PM Re: SP Hotlinking-Prevention System [Re: xinx]
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i'm not exactly understanding what we're trying to prevent here... the images posted on SP are not hosted by SP itself. instead they're hosted on public image hosting services for free. (imageshack, imagevenue etc) SP is not losing any bandwidth here so what exactly is the problem?

if said pictures were hosted on the SP domain of course it would be very easy to disallow remote linking.

again i'm just asking because i'm not understanding the problem.




If the same codes get used on multiple forums, they're more likely to be killed by the image hosts, not to mentions that it's very rude to the person who took the time to upload the pictures in the first place.

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#961818 - 08/17/07 07:30 PM Re: SP Hotlinking-Prevention System [Re: ACT]
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I have copied imagecode (from my own posts, of course) to other forums before, and I can never get the images to actually show (or am I mixing it up with another place?)...the code is slightly different, I think...



That's the point: This forum changes the [img] automatically to [image]. If you only copies this code and pastes it in a forum with php software the pics don't show up.
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#961819 - 08/17/07 08:06 PM Re: SP Hotlinking-Prevention System [Re: marathonmann]
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technically, you can just mess about with the code manually and get the pix to work, elsewhere, I'm not sure if your average leech would go to the trouble of doing that though.
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#961820 - 08/17/07 08:08 PM Re: SP Hotlinking-Prevention System [Re: xaviersteele]
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we gotta work an intelligent way.

lets' say you steal code from here. The code is changed to a picture of me in a French Maid's outfit whipping a another person in S and M gear

that would scare anyone from doing that
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#961821 - 08/17/07 08:47 PM Re: SP Hotlinking-Prevention System [Re: KA]
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we gotta work an intelligent way.

lets' say you steal code from here. The code is changed to a picture of me in a French Maid's outfit whipping a another person in S and M gear

that would scare anyone from doing that




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#961822 - 08/17/07 09:42 PM Re: SP Hotlinking-Prevention System [Re: boones]
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Hotlinking is very common on the celeb sites, i wouldnt just say that other sites do it to us ... but that some of our posters do it as well.

People are getting tired of uploading, and I dont blame them, especially when some of these pictures are getting bigger and bigger in file size, and the sheer number of photos that have to be uploaded.

If anything, it would be wiser just to rename and tag all your uploaded photos with the words "superiorpics or www.sp.com" in it.
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#961823 - 08/17/07 10:49 PM Re: SP Hotlinking-Prevention System [Re: Dream_Sequence]
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Hotlinking is very common on the celeb sites, i wouldnt just say that other sites do it to us ... but that some of our posters do it as well.

People are getting tired of uploading, and I dont blame them, especially when some of these pictures are getting bigger and bigger in file size, and the sheer number of photos that have to be uploaded.

If anything, it would be wiser just to rename and tag all your uploaded photos with the words "superiorpics or www.sp.com" in it.





Thanks D-S. Just to clarify my original statement with regard to your comment, the sites I'm speaking of specifically are ones I've seen that literally have automated 'crawlers' that use our post titles as their own and list our thumb codes as their own direct links to posted files.

One I've found (not a forum/board) has all the posts of SP on it. It's all SP-content with their own look and feel. A complete 'rip' so to speak.

For Example, that site has all of my Patricia Heaton posts. I only post on SP. Evidence of their automated system.

So again to be clear, I COMPLETELY understand that forums 'share' ... no problem there. I am specifically referring to sites that are blatantly representing all of our content as their own.
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#961824 - 08/25/07 07:05 AM Re: SP Hotlinking-Prevention System [Re: boones]
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Quick update:

I'm currently implementing the simple TAG feature in FastStone Image Viewer (Advanced Options / Text) to add the words:

SuperiorPics.com - "Get the Best Pics FIRST!"

... to the top-left corner of all my Exclusive HQ posted pix. I use that program to rename all my pix anyways so the added automated step is quite painless.

I believe Cam or Cut thought up that slogan when we were initially batting around the "don't hotlink" thumbnail idea. Thanks again.

Doesn't prevent hot-linking but will hopefully add some exposure to the site and lead more new users to us.


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#961825 - 08/25/07 10:34 AM Re: SP Hotlinking-Prevention System [Re: boones]
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#961826 - 10/30/07 02:27 AM Re: SP Hotlinking-Prevention System [Re: Cutlass]
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Just to chime in my own opinion on this subject, I think that hotlinking and image theft cannot be prevented at all. However, it will be discouraged if each hosted image is watermarked in the center. This in turn will also discourage original viewers here at SP. I make my own VidCaps and spend an awful lot of time doing so. I don't just randomly cap frames, but am very picky and very diligent about what I do. I actually view it as a work of art. This is the only celeb site that I post these VidCaps at (just did some tonight as a matter of fact).

A few years ago, I used to heavily post VidCaps of Beverley Mitchell, Heather Locklear, Megyn Price, Amanda Bynes, etc... and this was the only place I did so. I then stumbled upon a few other sites that were using my exact VidCaps and not mentioning where they came from at all. I even registered as a user at 1 particular site just to inform a poster who reposted a gathering of my Bev caps that I was the person who made them (to which this person was claiming them as his). I got so disgusted that I stopped for a while.

Thinking things have changed since then, I started making more VidCaps and posting them here again a few months ago. Unfortunately, I caught someone in the act again. I really enjoy making these for everyone to see so rather than stop all together, I've begun tagging each cap with my user name.

It's unfortunate that some people try to pass things off as their own, but that's the way of the world today. It can't be stopped.
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#961827 - 10/30/07 04:38 AM Re: SP Hotlinking-Prevention System [Re: rockman725]
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Just to chime in my own opinion on this subject, I think that hotlinking and image theft cannot be prevented at all. However, it will be discouraged if each hosted image is watermarked in the center. This in turn will also discourage original viewers here at SP. I make my own VidCaps and spend an awful lot of time doing so. I don't just randomly cap frames, but am very picky and very diligent about what I do. I actually view it as a work of art. This is the only celeb site that I post these VidCaps at (just did some tonight as a matter of fact).


It's unfortunate that some people try to pass things off as their own, but that's the way of the world today. It can't be stopped.




Image code snatching is preventable on vBulletin forums (with that additional script). It makes it so that when you quote a post the image links dont show up or don't show up entirely.

It is also alot of work to watermark every image. It's especially wrong because none of us owns the images posted (with little exceptions). Though I do understand caps and scans because it does take some time to make those images presentable.
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#961828 - 10/30/07 06:38 AM Re: SP Hotlinking-Prevention System [Re: JT]
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Quote:

Quote:

Just to chime in my own opinion on this subject, I think that hotlinking and image theft cannot be prevented at all. However, it will be discouraged if each hosted image is watermarked in the center. This in turn will also discourage original viewers here at SP. I make my own VidCaps and spend an awful lot of time doing so. I don't just randomly cap frames, but am very picky and very diligent about what I do. I actually view it as a work of art. This is the only celeb site that I post these VidCaps at (just did some tonight as a matter of fact).


It's unfortunate that some people try to pass things off as their own, but that's the way of the world today. It can't be stopped.




Image code snatching is preventable on vBulletin forums (with that additional script). It makes it so that when you quote a post the image links dont show up or don't show up entirely.

It is also alot of work to watermark every image. It's especially wrong because none of us owns the images posted (with little exceptions). Though I do understand caps and scans because it does take some time to make those images presentable.



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#961829 - 10/30/07 09:18 PM Re: SP Hotlinking-Prevention System [Re: XenaGuy]
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We don't like watermarking. Especially big and obvious ones. Our goal is to discourage taking posts and copying codes directly. Individual pics, once they are on the net, are going to make the rounds of websites and forums. Nothing can stop that.
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#961830 - 11/08/07 12:12 PM Re: SP Hotlinking-Prevention System [Re: DTravel]
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Interesting idea, but why not make it a link to the SP Forum itself? Like this:

Code:
 [URL=http://forums.superiorpics.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php][IMG]http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/3258/visitsuperiorpicsdonthojj9.th.jpg[/IMG][/URL]







I totally understand the incentive with your modified approach DT however the types of site the thumbnail-link I designed was intended to discourage won't pick that up because it's not linked to an imagehost ... here's an actual example ...

Your recent "Mira Sorvino" post on a stealing site:


.. again this isn't for the sake of argument ... I wish your version worked too!!

I still recommend using the following code for this type of approach - I believe it's more likely to work on the offending sites like the one illustrated above:
(displays the thumb and links to the HQ version of the thumb)

Code:
[URL=http://img182.imageshack.us/my.php?image=visitsuperiorpicsdonthojj9.jpg][IMG]http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/3258/visitsuperiorpicsdonthojj9.th.jpg[/IMG][/URL]

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#961831 - 11/08/07 03:42 PM Re: SP Hotlinking-Prevention System [Re: boones]
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<censored> Well, so much for that idea. I've got more screencaps planned in the near future, I'll try your code in those and we'll see how that works.

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#961832 - 11/08/07 03:53 PM Re: SP Hotlinking-Prevention System [Re: DTravel]
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Fark! I just checked that Celebrity123.com site and I don't think your code would work either Boones. If it was going to then they should have also picked up the copyright display pic I put in my screencap posts. But those aren't listed or shown there either.

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#961833 - 11/08/07 03:55 PM Re: SP Hotlinking-Prevention System [Re: DTravel]
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Fark! I just checked that Celebrity123.com site and I don't think your code would work either Boones. If it was going to then they should have also picked up the copyright display pic I put in my screencap posts. But those aren't listed or shown there either.




hmmm ... my guess is he is probably sifting through what his bot grabs before he posts maybe ... I am going to put it in some of my new posts to to see what happens too.
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#961834 - 11/08/07 04:28 PM Re: SP Hotlinking-Prevention System [Re: boones]
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That's pretty much what I was questioning at the beginning of this thread when Boones initially presented the idea.

@ DT - did you place the copyright display pic at the very end or very start of the post, or put in somewhere in the middle?
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#961835 - 11/08/07 04:36 PM Re: SP Hotlinking-Prevention System [Re: Mindcrime]
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At the end. And the no-hotlinking thumbnail link at the beginning. I don't think that makes any difference. Bots aren't going to care where those are, they'll just pick up any and all links. Same with a human manually checking what a bot grabs, he(/she) is most likely just hitting "next" and "delete" buttons paging thru large batches so putting them in the middle won't matter.

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#961836 - 11/08/07 04:46 PM Re: SP Hotlinking-Prevention System [Re: DTravel]
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Did some more poking and found something interesting. I looked for my Laura San Giacomo caps from 'Nina Takes a Lover' and found this:


That's interesting for two reasons. First, the "no hotlink" code did work; and second, they haven't picked up my later Laura San Giacomo caps from 'Under Suspicion'.

I also looked for the other caps I did from 'Nina Takes a Lover' of Cristi Conaway and found those without the "no hotlink" code but with the copyright notice.

So whatever that particular site is doing, they're not consistent.

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#961837 - 11/08/07 05:05 PM Re: SP Hotlinking-Prevention System [Re: DTravel]
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Did some more poking and found something interesting. I looked for my Laura San Giacomo caps from 'Nina Takes a Lover' and found this:


That's interesting for two reasons. First, the "no hotlink" code did work; and second, they haven't picked up my later Laura San Giacomo caps from 'Under Suspicion'.

I also looked for the other caps I did from 'Nina Takes a Lover' of Cristi Conaway and found those without the "no hotlink" code but with the copyright notice.

So whatever that particular site is doing, they're not consistent.




wow - YEAH it did work!! Links straight to SP immediately for me.

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#961838 - 11/08/07 05:40 PM Re: SP Hotlinking-Prevention System [Re: boones]
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One time out of five that I saw. I think my link code may work against purely automated "snatch-n-grab" set-ups but that site is at least usually doing manual checking of what they snatch. We'd need some kind of forum software change to combat that. (Not a criticism of the administration here, just noting it.)

If people know of some other sites we should look at the results on them as well. I don't want to base our entire strategy on just one example.

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#961839 - 11/17/07 12:15 PM Re: SP Hotlinking-Prevention System [Re: DTravel]
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Update: I looked up my last pic regurgitation post of Katherine Heigl on that Celebrity123 site. They snipped the "no hotlinking" thumbnail but it appears that they only captured the first part of my post. I'm wondering what would happen if the main (first) post of a thread had no pictures at all or just a "no hotlinking" pic and the real pictures were in a reply....

(And I'd still like to know what other snatch-n-grab sites get.)

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#961840 - 11/17/07 01:01 PM Re: SP Hotlinking-Prevention System [Re: DTravel]
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They snipped the "no hotlinking" thumbnail but it appears that they only captured the first part of my post.




Perhaps they'll add your post in installments rather than all at once, similar to how they grabbed mine:



I'd give them a bit more time yet.
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#961841 - 11/17/07 01:12 PM Re: SP Hotlinking-Prevention System [Re: Mindcrime]
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They've also stolen every single one of my Cheryl Tweedy posts it seems.

It appears they didn't do ALL of my Birthday celebration post though, just the first post. No wonder our links sometimes die very quickly.
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#961842 - 11/17/07 05:07 PM Re: SP Hotlinking-Prevention System [Re: General RAAM]
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They've also stolen every single one of my Cheryl Tweedy posts it seems.





Quite. Where do you think most of their Hathaway links come from?

I only singled out my megapost in my previous post as it is fairly similar in the number of images to DTravel's Heigl post that he was talking about.
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#961843 - 11/17/07 08:21 PM Re: SP Hotlinking-Prevention System [Re: Mindcrime]
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They snipped the "no hotlinking" thumbnail but it appears that they only captured the first part of my post.




Perhaps they'll add your post in installments rather than all at once, similar to how they grabbed mine:



I'd give them a bit more time yet.



No, that's not what I mean. I know they only put 150 links per listing there but they pull all the links from a single post, not a single thread. I put all my Heigl links in six posts in the same thread, but all they've grabbed are links from the first post. I think their software is only grabbing from initial, thread-starting, posts.

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#961844 - 11/17/07 08:26 PM Re: SP Hotlinking-Prevention System [Re: DTravel]
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Oh, OK. My mistake. I see what you mean - they didn't take any of the pics from your 'replies'.
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#961845 - 12/03/07 05:58 PM Re: SP Hotlinking-Prevention System [Re: Mindcrime]
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Well, as probably none of you have noticed my last several picture posts have had the pictures in the first reply to the thread's initial post. From what I and Boones can tell, that appears to work against Celebrity123.com. Does anyone know of any other link snatching sites so we can see what if any effect it has had against them?

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#961846 - 12/03/07 09:19 PM Re: SP Hotlinking-Prevention System [Re: DTravel]
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Well, as probably none of you have noticed ...



... I didn't, but if it's working, that's great! ...

I have followed this thread since its inception, but didn't realize it was such a big problem. I'm glad you found a strategy that seems to work.
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#961847 - 12/04/07 08:20 AM Re: SP Hotlinking-Prevention System [Re: DTravel]
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Well, as probably none of you have noticed my last several picture posts have had the pictures in the first reply to the thread's initial post. From what I and Boones can tell, that appears to work against Celebrity123.com. Does anyone know of any other link snatching sites so we can see what if any effect it has had against them?




I greatly HERALD DT's discovery of this loophole in the 'sweeping' method of the 123 site that has so grossly copied our posts. That site (and it's subsites) is specifically why I created this thread originally. I greatly admire your devotion to thwarting this violator.

Posting pix in the first Reply post to the initial thread does work against that site. I am aware of no other site that employs similar tactics.

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#961848 - 12/28/07 04:45 PM Re: SP Hotlinking-Prevention System [Re: boones]
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Well, it appears that Celebrity123 has updated their scripts. They have snagged the Jennifer Love Hewitt caps I posted last night using this technique. We need to figure something else out.

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#961849 - 12/28/07 06:06 PM Re: SP Hotlinking-Prevention System [Re: DTravel]
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Well, it appears that Celebrity123 has updated their scripts. They have snagged the Jennifer Love Hewitt caps I posted last night using this technique. We need to figure something else out.




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#961850 - 12/28/07 07:01 PM Re: SP Hotlinking-Prevention System [Re: Cutlass]
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They also have my Nell McAndrew, Rose McGowan, Beyonce, and Mariska Hargitay posts, all posted using your 'reply' method.

The good news is that they didn't steal my Jon Gruden 'rant'!
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#961851 - 12/29/07 09:51 AM Re: SP Hotlinking-Prevention System [Re: XenaGuy]
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They also have my Nell McAndrew, Rose McGowan, Beyonce, and Mariska Hargitay posts, all posted using your 'reply' method.

The good news is that they didn't steal my Jon Gruden 'rant'!


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#961852 - 01/18/08 04:16 PM Re: SP Hotlinking-Prevention System [Re: KA]
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What would work is if the image hosts would let users set an http referrer attribute with their posts. So once the pics are uploaded you would have an option that was something like "Allow downloads from:" with a choice of "Any Domain" or "Specific Domains" with 5 or so fields were you could enter specific domains that were allowed access. I know that ImageShack has a more global version of this in place where they have banned certain domains from accessing content. Many of us have probably visited forums that have been banned by ImageShack and seen the instructions for turning off http referrer in our browsers to defeat this. Doing that wouldn't work with this method because instead of the filter being "Anyone but those on the banned list" it would be "No one but those on the approved list". PaintedOver also has something regarding http referrers in place because you can't see anything there unless you have http referrer enabled. Other hosts probably do to. And it may have to be an all or nothing thing where all pictures in an account are either any domain or specific domains so folks might need 2 accounts on a host, one for pics they want to show anywhere and one for pics they only want shown in specific domains. Anyway, I know its kind of pie in the sky thinking, but if anyone has a good working relationship with any of the hosts they might mention it to them. You never know.

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#961853 - 01/29/08 05:18 PM Re: SP Hotlinking-Prevention System [Re: Themycles]
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Well, for my latest screencaps posting I watermarked the pictures. Its been three days now and Celebrity123 still hasn't copied them, so Looks like I will be watermarking all my work from now on.

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#961854 - 01/29/08 11:30 PM Re: SP Hotlinking-Prevention System [Re: DTravel]
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Well, for my latest screencaps posting I watermarked the pictures. Its been three days now and Celebrity123 still hasn't copied them, so Looks like I will be watermarking all my work from now on.



*Sigh* ... sucks, but if that's what you have to do ...
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#961855 - 01/30/08 03:39 AM Re: SP Hotlinking-Prevention System [Re: XenaGuy]
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I didn't think it was that big a deal until I found this webpage: http://www.starmuscle.com/funny-celebrity-pictures/olsen/

Which is a word for word, pic for pic PLAGIARISM of a post I did a while back: http://forums.superiorpics.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/1138867/an//page/0/vc/1

They even included one of the replies for some weird reason. Naturally I was outraged, but if that "Pics in the Second Comment" method doesn't work then I don't know how to prevent it.
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#961856 - 02/01/08 03:15 AM Re: SP Hotlinking-Prevention System [Re: Marvin_Candle]
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I didn't think it was that big a deal until I found this webpage: http://www.starmuscle.com/funny-celebrity-pictures/olsen/

Which is a word for word, pic for pic PLAGIARISM of a post I did a while back: http://forums.superiorpics.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/1138867/an//page/0/vc/1

They even included one of the replies for some weird reason. Naturally I was outraged, but if that "Pics in the Second Comment" method doesn't work then I don't know how to prevent it.




Your pain is felt among many my friend. Seems subtle watermarking is our best defense for now ... then at least when your codes are copied the watermark will still show where it came from. I recommend including your screen name along with "SuperiorPics.com" somehow. It will lead more people to this forum where they can thank you in person! (so to speak)

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#961857 - 02/01/08 04:21 AM Re: SP Hotlinking-Prevention System [Re: boones]
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Your pain is felt among many my friend. Seems subtle watermarking is our best defense for now ... then at least when your codes are copied the watermark will still show where it came from. I recommend including your screen name along with "SuperiorPics.com" somehow. It will lead more people to this forum where they can thank you in person! (so to speak)






Thanks, I may do that for certain posts if necessary. I don't like the idea of tagging pics because I hate tags, but maybe I can just tell other members to message me and I'll send the untagged ones. I don't post that often anyway.

I wouldn't be bothered if it was just a regular picture post, but this was a theme post with commentary by me, they stole my words too so it literally is plagiarism.
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#961858 - 02/01/08 11:33 AM Re: SP Hotlinking-Prevention System [Re: Marvin_Candle]
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Your pain is felt among many my friend. Seems subtle watermarking is our best defense for now ... then at least when your codes are copied the watermark will still show where it came from. I recommend including your screen name along with "SuperiorPics.com" somehow. It will lead more people to this forum where they can thank you in person! (so to speak)






Thanks, I may do that for certain posts if necessary. I don't like the idea of tagging pics because I hate tags, but maybe I can just tell other members to message me and I'll send the untagged ones. I don't post that often anyway.

I wouldn't be bothered if it was just a regular picture post, but this was a theme post with commentary by me, they stole my words too so it literally is plagiarism.




i hear ya, totally blows, man.
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#961859 - 02/01/08 07:55 PM Re: SP Hotlinking-Prevention System [Re: Marvin_Candle]
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<MarvinCandle>

I wouldn't be bothered if it was just a regular picture post, but this was a theme post with commentary by me, they stole my words too so it literally is plagiarism.



Looking at it from a different angle, the plagiarizing webmaster paid you one hell of a compliment!
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#961860 - 02/01/08 09:09 PM Re: SP Hotlinking-Prevention System [Re: XenaGuy]
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<MarvinCandle>

I wouldn't be bothered if it was just a regular picture post, but this was a theme post with commentary by me, they stole my words too so it literally is plagiarism.



Looking at it from a different angle, the plagiarizing webmaster paid you one hell of a compliment!




If you are implying what I think you are implying with that comment, XenaGuy, then it's something I've thought about ever since this whole thing reared its head. It's a point I mentioned to Boones a while ago.
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#961861 - 02/01/08 09:37 PM Re: SP Hotlinking-Prevention System [Re: Mindcrime]
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<MarvinCandle>

I wouldn't be bothered if it was just a regular picture post, but this was a theme post with commentary by me, they stole my words too so it literally is plagiarism.



Looking at it from a different angle, the plagiarizing webmaster paid you one hell of a compliment!




If you are implying what I think you are implying with that comment, XenaGuy, then it's something I've thought about ever since this whole thing reared its head. It's a point I mentioned to Boones a while ago.


There's more to people taking than laziness?


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#961862 - 02/01/08 10:26 PM Re: SP Hotlinking-Prevention System [Re: Mindcrime]
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I wouldn't be bothered if it was just a regular picture post, but this was a theme post with commentary by me, they stole my words too so it literally is plagiarism.



Looking at it from a different angle, the plagiarizing webmaster paid you one hell of a compliment!




If you are implying what I think you are implying with that comment, XenaGuy, then it's something I've thought about ever since this whole thing reared its head. It's a point I mentioned to Boones a while ago.



... I don't know what you think I was implying, all I was trying to say is that I understand how it feels to have an entire post copied word for word, but also that it means the webmaster felt that the commentary as well as the pics, were worth using on his website. I'd probably feel good about that at the same time as feeling being pissed at being ripped off. (Kind of like when somebody passes by a bunch of Caddys, Porches, and Benzes to steal your '72 GTO.)
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#961863 - 02/01/08 10:39 PM Re: SP Hotlinking-Prevention System [Re: XenaGuy]
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I wouldn't be bothered if it was just a regular picture post, but this was a theme post with commentary by me, they stole my words too so it literally is plagiarism.



Looking at it from a different angle, the plagiarizing webmaster paid you one hell of a compliment!




If you are implying what I think you are implying with that comment, XenaGuy, then it's something I've thought about ever since this whole thing reared its head. It's a point I mentioned to Boones a while ago.



... I don't know what you think I was implying, all I was trying to say is that I understand how it feels to have an entire post copied word for word, but also that it means the webmaster felt that the commentary as well as the pics, were worth using on his website. I'd probably feel good about that at the same time as feeling being pissed at being ripped off. (Kind of like when somebody passes by a bunch of Caddys, Porches, and Benzes to steal your '72 GTO.)




Well, all that I meant by my post was that, if you think about it, this whole deal of other websites taking material directly from here is a compliment to the guys and gals that contribute pictures here. Sort of.

Just my $0.02.
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#961864 - 02/01/08 10:49 PM Re: SP Hotlinking-Prevention System [Re: Mindcrime]
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<MarvinCandle>

I wouldn't be bothered if it was just a regular picture post, but this was a theme post with commentary by me, they stole my words too so it literally is plagiarism.



Looking at it from a different angle, the plagiarizing webmaster paid you one hell of a compliment!




If you are implying what I think you are implying with that comment, XenaGuy, then it's something I've thought about ever since this whole thing reared its head. It's a point I mentioned to Boones a while ago.



... I don't know what you think I was implying, all I was trying to say is that I understand how it feels to have an entire post copied word for word, but also that it means the webmaster felt that the commentary as well as the pics, were worth using on his website. I'd probably feel good about that at the same time as feeling being pissed at being ripped off. (Kind of like when somebody passes by a bunch of Caddys, Porches, and Benzes to steal your '72 GTO.)




Well, all that I meant by my post was that, if you think about it, this whole deal of other websites taking material directly from here is a compliment to the guys and gals that contribute pictures here. Sort of.

Just my $0.02.



If they acknowledged and credited who and where they took them from, sure. But they don't, they just post copies as though it was their own work.

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#961865 - 02/02/08 01:16 AM Re: SP Hotlinking-Prevention System [Re: DTravel]
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You guys all make good points. It is a compliment in some twisted way, but without being acknowledged you're still getting ripped off. This is a drastic suggestion but does anyone think it would cut down the use of the sweeping programs if we made it so that you have to be logged in to view the forums? Maybe not the main page or category pages, but the actual posts. Again it's extreme and I prefer an open forum as I'm sure everyone else does, I just wonder if it would help.
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#961866 - 02/02/08 09:57 AM Re: SP Hotlinking-Prevention System [Re: Marvin_Candle]
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You guys all make good points. It is a compliment in some twisted way, but without being acknowledged you're still getting ripped off. This is a drastic suggestion but does anyone think it would cut down the use of the sweeping programs if we made it so that you have to be logged in to view the forums? Maybe not the main page or category pages, but the actual posts. Again it's extreme and I prefer an open forum as I'm sure everyone else does, I just wonder if it would help.




That suggestion more than anything else would help, I'm sure. I imagine one of the reasons they steal the imagecodes from this site so frequently is because a login isn't required to view the forums here.
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#961867 - 02/02/08 10:51 AM Re: SP Hotlinking-Prevention System [Re: Mindcrime]
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You guys all make good points. It is a compliment in some twisted way, but without being acknowledged you're still getting ripped off. This is a drastic suggestion but does anyone think it would cut down the use of the sweeping programs if we made it so that you have to be logged in to view the forums? Maybe not the main page or category pages, but the actual posts. Again it's extreme and I prefer an open forum as I'm sure everyone else does, I just wonder if it would help.




That suggestion more than anything else would help, I'm sure. I imagine one of the reasons they steal the imagecodes from this site so frequently is because a login isn't required to view the forums here.


Unfortunately, the viewers who are not logged in outnumber the registered users who do log in by 4 or 5 to 1 at any given time. It's they that view the advertising that runs this place.
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#961868 - 02/02/08 03:18 PM Re: SP Hotlinking-Prevention System [Re: Cutlass]
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You guys all make good points. It is a compliment in some twisted way, but without being acknowledged you're still getting ripped off. This is a drastic suggestion but does anyone think it would cut down the use of the sweeping programs if we made it so that you have to be logged in to view the forums? Maybe not the main page or category pages, but the actual posts. Again it's extreme and I prefer an open forum as I'm sure everyone else does, I just wonder if it would help.




That suggestion more than anything else would help, I'm sure. I imagine one of the reasons they steal the imagecodes from this site so frequently is because a login isn't required to view the forums here.


Unfortunately, the viewers who are not logged in outnumber the registered users who do log in by 4 or 5 to 1 at any given time. It's they that view the advertising that runs this place.


It would also drastically reduce the number of new registered users we get here. So many of the introduction posts include something like "I lurked here for a year before registering". Without new users joining and eventually becoming posters themselves the forum would die.

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#961869 - 02/02/08 03:29 PM Re: SP Hotlinking-Prevention System [Re: DTravel]
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I just checked the Celebrity123 site and the webmaster there has gone to a new layout. In addition to changing how he(/she) displays links, he's added a "Links" page with links to other sites including Superior Pics. Still nothing to indicate that's where he's been getting the pics he shows from but it almost a step in the right direction.

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#961870 - 02/02/08 05:25 PM Re: SP Hotlinking-Prevention System [Re: DTravel]
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I'd say that was a step in the right direction. Well, perhaps not a step. More of a shuffle.


Edited by Mindcrime (02/02/08 05:30 PM)
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#961871 - 02/02/08 05:35 PM Re: SP Hotlinking-Prevention System [Re: Mindcrime]
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I'd say that was a step in the right direction. Well, perhaps not a step. More of a shuffle.


A scuff of his shoes in the right direction?

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#961872 - 02/02/08 05:52 PM Re: SP Hotlinking-Prevention System [Re: DTravel]
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I'd say that was a step in the right direction. Well, perhaps not a step. More of a shuffle.


A scuff of his shoes in the right direction?



Of course, I start to check out some of the other links and what do I find? Celebrity Cache has stolen the links to the Under the Radar magazine scans of Zooey that I made last week. And it looks like most of the other Zooey pictures they have were posted by myself and others here at SP.
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#961873 - 02/02/08 06:52 PM Re: SP Hotlinking-Prevention System [Re: Mindcrime]
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You guys all make good points. It is a compliment in some twisted way, but without being acknowledged you're still getting ripped off. This is a drastic suggestion but does anyone think it would cut down the use of the sweeping programs if we made it so that you have to be logged in to view the forums? Maybe not the main page or category pages, but the actual posts. Again it's extreme and I prefer an open forum as I'm sure everyone else does, I just wonder if it would help.




That suggestion more than anything else would help, I'm sure. I imagine one of the reasons they steal the imagecodes from this site so frequently is because a login isn't required to view the forums here.



That's true, but on the other hand, the only way to steal the image codes if not logged in is to click on each pic and go to the imagehost site to get the codes.
If you're not logged in, you can't click the <Quote> button to copy the codes. (Unless there is software that will scan the post and grab the codes, which I don't see any way to prevent.)
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#961874 - 02/02/08 07:51 PM Re: SP Hotlinking-Prevention System [Re: DTravel]
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I'd say that was a step in the right direction. Well, perhaps not a step. More of a shuffle.


A scuff of his shoes in the right direction?




Yeah, something like that.
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#961875 - 02/02/08 07:52 PM Re: SP Hotlinking-Prevention System [Re: XenaGuy]
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You guys all make good points. It is a compliment in some twisted way, but without being acknowledged you're still getting ripped off. This is a drastic suggestion but does anyone think it would cut down the use of the sweeping programs if we made it so that you have to be logged in to view the forums? Maybe not the main page or category pages, but the actual posts. Again it's extreme and I prefer an open forum as I'm sure everyone else does, I just wonder if it would help.




That suggestion more than anything else would help, I'm sure. I imagine one of the reasons they steal the imagecodes from this site so frequently is because a login isn't required to view the forums here.



That's true, but on the other hand, the only way to steal the image codes if not logged in is to click on each pic and go to the imagehost site to get the codes.
If you're not logged in, you can't click the <Quote> button to copy the codes. (Unless there is software that will scan the post and grab the codes, which I don't see any way to prevent.)




That's a good point. I had not thought of that.
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#961876 - 02/02/08 09:32 PM Re: SP Hotlinking-Prevention System [Re: Mindcrime]
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You guys all make good points. It is a compliment in some twisted way, but without being acknowledged you're still getting ripped off. This is a drastic suggestion but does anyone think it would cut down the use of the sweeping programs if we made it so that you have to be logged in to view the forums? Maybe not the main page or category pages, but the actual posts. Again it's extreme and I prefer an open forum as I'm sure everyone else does, I just wonder if it would help.




That suggestion more than anything else would help, I'm sure. I imagine one of the reasons they steal the imagecodes from this site so frequently is because a login isn't required to view the forums here.



That's true, but on the other hand, the only way to steal the image codes if not logged in is to click on each pic and go to the imagehost site to get the codes.
If you're not logged in, you can't click the <Quote> button to copy the codes. (Unless there is software that will scan the post and grab the codes, which I don't see any way to prevent.)




That's a good point. I had not thought of that.


What do you think all those picture downloading programs we all use (like GalleryGrabber, etc.) do? They read the HTML and parse out the links.

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#961877 - 02/03/08 12:46 AM Re: SP Hotlinking-Prevention System [Re: DTravel]
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You guys all make good points. It is a compliment in some twisted way, but without being acknowledged you're still getting ripped off. This is a drastic suggestion but does anyone think it would cut down the use of the sweeping programs if we made it so that you have to be logged in to view the forums? Maybe not the main page or category pages, but the actual posts. Again it's extreme and I prefer an open forum as I'm sure everyone else does, I just wonder if it would help.




That suggestion more than anything else would help, I'm sure. I imagine one of the reasons they steal the imagecodes from this site so frequently is because a login isn't required to view the forums here.



That's true, but on the other hand, the only way to steal the image codes if not logged in is to click on each pic and go to the imagehost site to get the codes.
If you're not logged in, you can't click the <Quote> button to copy the codes. (Unless there is software that will scan the post and grab the codes, which I don't see any way to prevent.)




That's a good point. I had not thought of that.


What do you think all those picture downloading programs we all use (like GalleryGrabber, etc.) do? They read the HTML and parse out the links.



I'll admit I don't know that much about it, but I thought all they did was suss out the direct links to the picture to allow it to be downloaded. Is that the same (or similar enough) as actually copying the UBBC code to be reposted on a different forum?
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#961878 - 02/03/08 02:30 AM Re: SP Hotlinking-Prevention System [Re: XenaGuy]
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You guys all make good points. It is a compliment in some twisted way, but without being acknowledged you're still getting ripped off. This is a drastic suggestion but does anyone think it would cut down the use of the sweeping programs if we made it so that you have to be logged in to view the forums? Maybe not the main page or category pages, but the actual posts. Again it's extreme and I prefer an open forum as I'm sure everyone else does, I just wonder if it would help.




That suggestion more than anything else would help, I'm sure. I imagine one of the reasons they steal the imagecodes from this site so frequently is because a login isn't required to view the forums here.



That's true, but on the other hand, the only way to steal the image codes if not logged in is to click on each pic and go to the imagehost site to get the codes.
If you're not logged in, you can't click the <Quote> button to copy the codes. (Unless there is software that will scan the post and grab the codes, which I don't see any way to prevent.)




That's a good point. I had not thought of that.


What do you think all those picture downloading programs we all use (like GalleryGrabber, etc.) do? They read the HTML and parse out the links.



I'll admit I don't know that much about it, but I thought all they did was suss out the direct links to the picture to allow it to be downloaded. Is that the same (or similar enough) as actually copying the UBBC code to be reposted on a different forum?


If anything its easier. Instead of having to actually follow the link once parsed all it has to do is write them to file.

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#961879 - 02/03/08 09:03 AM Re: SP Hotlinking-Prevention System [Re: DTravel]
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DTravel, apologies if you have already mentioned this in this thread, but do you still make your picture posts so that the images are in the first reply? Is that method still effective?
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#961880 - 02/03/08 03:47 PM Re: SP Hotlinking-Prevention System [Re: Mindcrime]
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DTravel, apologies if you have already mentioned this in this thread, but do you still make your picture posts so that the images are in the first reply? Is that method still effective?


It is no longer effective so I don't do it anymore.

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#961881 - 02/13/08 02:41 AM Re: SP Hotlinking-Prevention System [Re: DTravel]
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DTravel, apologies if you have already mentioned this in this thread, but do you still make your picture posts so that the images are in the first reply? Is that method still effective?


It is no longer effective so I don't do it anymore.



And, since DT doesn't do it anymore, I don't either!


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#961882 - 02/13/08 09:10 PM Re: SP Hotlinking-Prevention System [Re: XenaGuy]
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DTravel, apologies if you have already mentioned this in this thread, but do you still make your picture posts so that the images are in the first reply? Is that method still effective?


It is no longer effective so I don't do it anymore.



And, since DT doesn't do it anymore, I don't either!






I promise, I will only use your faith in me and blind devotion to following me where ever I lead to accumulate more glory and personal power for myself in my quest for world domination.

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#961883 - 02/24/08 05:42 PM Re: SP Hotlinking-Prevention System [Re: DTravel]
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DTravel, apologies if you have already mentioned this in this thread, but do you still make your picture posts so that the images are in the first reply? Is that method still effective?


It is no longer effective so I don't do it anymore.



And, since DT doesn't do it anymore, I don't either!






I promise, I will only use your faith in me and blind devotion to following me where ever I lead to accumulate more glory and personal power for myself in my quest for world domination.






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#961884 - 03/10/08 08:19 PM Re: SP Hotlinking-Prevention System [Re: XenaGuy]
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Well, it looks like one less link thief site out there! celebrity123.com now takes you to celebritybirthdaylist.com.
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#961885 - 03/11/08 12:53 AM Re: SP Hotlinking-Prevention System [Re: foobar456]
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Well, it looks like one less link thief site out there! celebrity123.com now takes you to celebritybirthdaylist.com.




great news ... there were a few mirrors of 123 though ... I wonder if those closed shop too

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