I don't think it's quite the same as SS because (in a world where a government runs things efficiently) the user gets their ends back if they so choose with SS.
First of all, the government NEVER runs ANYTHING more efficiently than the private sector. It is an impossibility thanks to human nature. Governments, or at least the government agencies and bureaucrats which administer things like Social Security, do not have to please those who rely on those services. And since they run on the public dime, they don't have to operate efficiently - this is why so many government agencies are bloated to the point of bursting (the budget anyway) with hoards of callous and uncaring people who could give a hot-damn whether you're happy with their service or not. At least in the private sector they have to make an effort to please customers as those customers can always seek satisfaction with their competitors.
Second, Social Security is going BROKE! So it won't be that long before there will be no money left to pay out without dramatically increasing taxes on those people still foolish enough to be working and paying taxes.
I don't think you get it Maud. We can't keep taking from the productive to give to the unproductive forever. At some point, the people realizing they can simply stop working and still survive on the welfare of the producers will continue to vote for those who promise to increase their idle comfort and these will do so until the whole thing blows up in all of our faces and the economy tanks and we plummet into yet another depression.
That is the track record of socialism EVERYWHERE it has been tried. It can only work for so long, and then the producers get wise and slowly but surely they join the ranks of the unproductive. This is human nature. It always seeks the path of least resistance.
With Obamacare, there's no such thing. The lower tiers pay more for something with the only positive that they'll pay less (most certainly not nothing) later on. When you consider that by the time they use it, the costs of medicine, which is the real underlying problem behind all of it, will continue to raise and they'll end up paying more later anyway. It's just... stupid.
As for the bolded part above... that is most certainly NOT the underlying problem behind all of it!
I can remember a time when health care was quite affordable. I came from a low-income family of 8 who never were able to own our own home. And yet my father made enough to afford the birth of 8 children and we could afford to have our family doctor make house calls!
No, the skyrocketing costs of healthcare are a SYMPTOM of the REAL problem underlying our healthcare woes. That problem is GOVERNMENT! It is the MASSIVE increase in government control and regulations in the fields of healthcare and health insurance that have driven up the costs, decade after decade!
It was the introduction of Medicare and Medicaid by LBJ in the 60's that marked the beginning of the end for true free market health care. And it has only gotten worse as more and more people began depending on those two programs, forcing healthcare providers that accept Medicare and Medicaid to meet ever more stringent, invasive, complex regulatory demands until it was necessary for an entire new industry to be created just to freaking deal with the nightmare of paperwork and red tape that only a government agency can do so damn well.
THERE'S your real culprit. It is the federal government and the leftists that dominate it that have created the nightmare we are now living. And they don't have to fucking please you one iota. You stand there with your hand out and you just have to take whatever it is they decide to give you, whenever they decide to give it to you. And you can bet your sweet bippy they are in no hurry to get it to you!
As I've said before I have no problem with a National Healthcare system. Obamacare is NOT that.
If you think Obamacare is bad, nationalizing health entirely would be a thousand times worse!
If the government can't even run a simple insurance exchange, how on earth do you think they'd do with running the whole shebang???
Honestly, who on earth would even think that the government could run and entire fifth of our economy with any sort of efficiency at all???
Are you just not paying any attention to the things the government is currently "running" (into the ground I might add)?
ALL of our welfare programs are running on dollars we borrow from China. Social Security and Social Security Disability are run like a ponzi scheme now, with current workers paying for retired workers and even that is set to explode in the next 15 years or so, and that's contingent on employment numbers somehow getting back to 5 percent or so. Amtrak is broke, the Postal Service is broke, hell, there's NOTHING the federal government runs at anything like a profit or anything even remotely resembling efficient.
Did you know, that the GAO, CBO and OMB cannot even agree on just how many federal agencies and programs being funded by taxpayers EXIST!!! The 3 freaking agencies that are supposed to have a handle on such things DON'T FREAKING KNOW HOW BIG THEIR OWN GOVERNMENT IS!!!
And you want to give these bozos total control over your freaking life!?!?!?!?
Give liberty over the alleged "security" of a government-run healthcare system ANY freaking day!