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#3883803 - 06/30/12 08:19 PM Re: Katie Holmes and Tom Cruise divorcing [Re: Oriental Knight]
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Originally Posted By: Oriental Knight

People who I consider to be better actors also get lazy from time to time or as they get older or get richer. Johnny Depp does not seem to challenge himself anymore. Robert De Niro too. Jack Nicholson however keeps going strong.

Tina Fey said in her book that a lot of older actors, like De Niro, are always looking for an excuse to be sitting down in a scene. giggle

But yes, Nicolas Cage is another one who stopped trying. Nobody takes him seriously any more, but if you watch certain dramas, like Adaptation or Matchstick Men, he actually is capable of being a good actor. But I guess he's currently only in the mood for fun blockbusters where he can give over the top performances.

Although another thing not everyone considers is that a significant portion of acting is the editing. You could give a brilliant performance, but by chance the editor might end up using all of your worst takes, making you look untalented. I suspect this is why some actors become producers, so they can have a say in which of their takes make it into the final cut.
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#3884022 - 07/01/12 01:51 AM Re: Katie Holmes and Tom Cruise divorcing [Re: Marvin_Candle]
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Originally Posted By: Marvin_Candle

Tina Fey said in her book that a lot of older actors, like De Niro, are always looking for an excuse to be sitting down in a scene. giggle

But yes, Nicolas Cage is another one who stopped trying. Nobody takes him seriously any more, but if you watch certain dramas, like Adaptation or Matchstick Men, he actually is capable of being a good actor. But I guess he's currently only in the mood for fun blockbusters where he can give over the top performances.

Although another thing not everyone considers is that a significant portion of acting is the editing. You could give a brilliant performance, but by chance the editor might end up using all of your worst takes, making you look untalented. I suspect this is why some actors become producers, so they can have a say in which of their takes make it into the final cut.

giggle

I agree with everything you said Marvin. Btw, I really enjoyed adaptation. Hated it at first and could not follow it but by the third time I watched it, I was like, wow, great work by Cage.
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#3884830 - 07/01/12 04:47 PM Re: Katie Holmes and Tom Cruise divorcing [Re: Oriental Knight]
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Yeah, Adaptation is brilliant. Charlie Kaufman is a genius screenwriter, he's good at writing movies that mess with your head a little. If you thought Adaptation was hard to follow, try watching Synecdoche, New York. cheeky
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#3884879 - 07/01/12 05:23 PM Re: Katie Holmes and Tom Cruise divorcing [Re: Marvin_Candle]
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Originally Posted By: Marvin_Candle
Yeah, Adaptation is brilliant. Charlie Kaufman is a genius screenwriter, he's good at writing movies that mess with your head a little. If you thought Adaptation was hard to follow, try watching Synecdoche, New York. cheeky
It's hard to say, too.


Did you guys know that Tom got his introduction to Scientology from his first wife, Mimi Rogers.
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#3884880 - 07/01/12 05:25 PM Re: Katie Holmes and Tom Cruise divorcing [Re: XenaGuy]
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Did you guys know that Tom got his introduction to Scientology from his first wife, Mimi Rogers.

Yeah, and people rarely mention that.
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#3884884 - 07/01/12 05:26 PM Re: Katie Holmes and Tom Cruise divorcing [Re: Oriental Knight]
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also interesting fact from an article I was just reading...

"Fans of the heartbroken star searched for a meaning, some postulating that the number 33 is related somehow to Mr Cruise's religion, Scientology.

Cruise married Mimi Rogers when she was 31 in May of 1987. She was 33 when they broke up in 1990. In his second marriage to Nicole Kidman, the thespians stayed together for ten years. They split in 2001, when she was 33.

His wedding with Katie Holmes was in 2006 when she was 28 and this week, when she filed for divorce, she had reached the ripe old age of 33.

In each case, divorce proceedings began when the wives were 33 and concluded when the were 34."
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#3884901 - 07/01/12 05:45 PM Re: Katie Holmes and Tom Cruise divorcing [Re: Oriental Knight]
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Dude was married before...and he was married to Mimi Rogers? drool

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#3884938 - 07/01/12 06:18 PM Re: Katie Holmes and Tom Cruise divorcing [Re: Feral]
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Mimi Rogers, Nicole Kidman, Katie Holmes ... quite a hat trick!
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#3884942 - 07/01/12 06:22 PM Re: Katie Holmes and Tom Cruise divorcing [Re: XenaGuy]
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Originally Posted By: XenaGuy
Mimi Rogers, Nicole Kidman, Katie Holmes ... quite a hat trick!

I'd say. Or beards?
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#3885377 - 07/01/12 10:15 PM Re: Katie Holmes and Tom Cruise divorcing [Re: Oriental Knight]
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Originally Posted By: Oriental Knight
Originally Posted By: XenaGuy

Did you guys know that Tom got his introduction to Scientology from his first wife, Mimi Rogers.

Yeah, and people rarely mention that.


I was unaware of that fact. Interesting...
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