#3815137 - 05/13/1210:11 PMRe: President Obama expresses support for same-sex marriage - May 9, 2012
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Feral
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It's oldminer's boat, he'll have to answer. He has a list of immoral things, but includes homosexuality. I'm not sure what his views on polygamy are, considering he's Mormon, but he's been very selective in his answers recently. Miner?
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It's oldminer's boat, he'll have to answer. He has a list of immoral things, but includes homosexuality. I'm not sure what his views on polygamy are, considering he's Mormon, but he's been very selective in his answers recently. Miner?
I don't support polgamy and it has banned since Wilford Woodruff issued the manifesto in October 1890 but I aknowledge it was common practice among the pioneer members of the church.
There was a reason why polygamy was practiced at the time..the early mormon pioneers were greatly persecuted and many of its brethern were killed leaving so many fatherless families nearly destitute those brethern remaining were asked to take those widows as thier wives and provide love and protection and finiacial support.
Many members were not too keen on the idea of plural marraige including Joseph Smith whose wife Emma especially did not like the idea of plural marraige but the prophet explained to her it was a direct commandment from the Lord who foresaw the persecution would become great enough for the need of plural marraige...as it was the case in biblical times when of the prophets of old had a number of wives.
God also foresaw that the church would continued to be persecuted and its temples conficated or destroyed and the ordinanece for the living and the dead would be lost...if the practice of plural marraige continued.
Here is the link to the manifesto issued by President Woodruff issued on October 6 1890.
#3815244 - 05/13/1211:13 PMRe: President Obama expresses support for same-sex marriage - May 9, 2012
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Feral
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Originally Posted By: 1oldminer
Originally Posted By: Feral
It's oldminer's boat, he'll have to answer. He has a list of immoral things, but includes homosexuality. I'm not sure what his views on polygamy are, considering he's Mormon, but he's been very selective in his answers recently. Miner?
I don't support polgamy and it has banned since Wilford Woodruff issued the manifesto in October 1890 but I aknowledge it was common practice among the pioneer members of the church. There was a reason why polygamy was practiced at the time..the early mormon pioneers were greatly persecuted and many of its brethern were killed leaving so many fatherless families nearly destitute those brethern remaining were asked to take those widows as thier wives and provide love and protection and finiacial support. Many members were not too keen on the idea of plural marraige including Joseph Smith whose wife Emma especially did not like the idea of plural marraige but the prophet explained to her it was a direct commandment from the Lord who foresaw the persecution would become great enough for the need of plural marraige...as it was the case in biblical times when of the prophets of old had a number of wives. God also foresaw that the church would continued to be persecuted and its temples conficated or destroyed and the ordinanece for the living and the dead would be lost...if the practice of plural marraige continued. Here is the link to the manifesto issued by President Woodruff issued on October 6 1890. http://www.lds.org/scriptures/dc-testament/od/1?lang=eng
Sounds like the Lord is fickle, when necessity calls for it.
It's oldminer's boat, he'll have to answer. He has a list of immoral things, but includes homosexuality. I'm not sure what his views on polygamy are, considering he's Mormon, but he's been very selective in his answers recently. Miner?
I don't support polgamy and it has banned since Wilford Woodruff issued the manifesto in October 1890 but I aknowledge it was common practice among the pioneer members of the church. There was a reason why polygamy was practiced at the time..the early mormon pioneers were greatly persecuted and many of its brethern were killed leaving so many fatherless families nearly destitute those brethern remaining were asked to take those widows as thier wives and provide love and protection and finiacial support. Many members were not too keen on the idea of plural marraige including Joseph Smith whose wife Emma especially did not like the idea of plural marraige but the prophet explained to her it was a direct commandment from the Lord who foresaw the persecution would become great enough for the need of plural marraige...as it was the case in biblical times when of the prophets of old had a number of wives. God also foresaw that the church would continued to be persecuted and its temples conficated or destroyed and the ordinanece for the living and the dead would be lost...if the practice of plural marraige continued. Here is the link to the manifesto issued by President Woodruff issued on October 6 1890. http://www.lds.org/scriptures/dc-testament/od/1?lang=eng
Sounds like the Lord is fickle, when necessity calls for it.
Can you comprehend the eternities Feral? Niether can I...nor do I pretend to...
Now you may think God acts fickle or immoral according the the worldly laws and morals of men according to the times we live in... there is a lot of things I don't understand including many of the things he has commanded to the ancient isrealites for example...however people judge God from a limited human perspective.While we see things at face-value and make a judgement call we can only see things from a limited mortal perspective therefore we judge the actions of God from that limited narrow perspective whereas God can see things and judges from an eternal perspective which is so far beyond our capacity to understand.
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Obama, in a crass political move, made his support of gay marriage public. What a shocker since he'd come out in support of it in the late 90's only to change his position upon seeking a national office. Bottom line, his position means less than squat as there's nothing he can do to inhibit or advance the cause.
On the list of things we should be concerned about given our current national prediciment, gay marriage is way, WAY down the list of things to worry about for any sane individual paying attention.
#3815392 - 05/14/1212:20 AMRe: President Obama expresses support for same-sex marriage - May 9, 2012
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Feral
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Originally Posted By: 1oldminer
Originally Posted By: Feral
Originally Posted By: 1oldminer
Originally Posted By: Feral
It's oldminer's boat, he'll have to answer. He has a list of immoral things, but includes homosexuality. I'm not sure what his views on polygamy are, considering he's Mormon, but he's been very selective in his answers recently. Miner?
I don't support polgamy and it has banned since Wilford Woodruff issued the manifesto in October 1890 but I aknowledge it was common practice among the pioneer members of the church. There was a reason why polygamy was practiced at the time..the early mormon pioneers were greatly persecuted and many of its brethern were killed leaving so many fatherless families nearly destitute those brethern remaining were asked to take those widows as thier wives and provide love and protection and finiacial support. Many members were not too keen on the idea of plural marraige including Joseph Smith whose wife Emma especially did not like the idea of plural marraige but the prophet explained to her it was a direct commandment from the Lord who foresaw the persecution would become great enough for the need of plural marraige...as it was the case in biblical times when of the prophets of old had a number of wives. God also foresaw that the church would continued to be persecuted and its temples conficated or destroyed and the ordinanece for the living and the dead would be lost...if the practice of plural marraige continued. Here is the link to the manifesto issued by President Woodruff issued on October 6 1890. http://www.lds.org/scriptures/dc-testament/od/1?lang=eng
Sounds like the Lord is fickle, when necessity calls for it.
Can you comprehend the eternities Feral? Niether can I...nor do I pretend to...
Now you may think God acts fickle or immoral according the the worldly laws and morals of men according to the times we live in... there is a lot of things I don't understand including many of the things he has commanded to the ancient isrealites for example...however people judge God from a limited human perspective.While we see things at face-value and make a judgement call we can only see things from a limited mortal perspective therefore we judge the actions of God from that limited narrow perspective whereas God can see things and judges from an eternal perspective which is so far beyond our capacity to understand.
That wasn't my meaning, but it is interesting to me that you say so. I don't judge. There's the difference between myself and folks who write 'The Word' and those who inevitably follow it second and third hand. Moses, Jesus, Mohammed, Smith. I don't pretend to know God's will.
I'm grateful for this latest expression in the category of equality. During recognition of a positive expression, it hasn't distracted me from attention to additional issues that are important.
Good grief...another disaster of cut-and-paste...where are you getting your stuff?
Gay marriage is legal in at least six states....New York, Massachusetts, Connecticut, Iowa, Vermont, and New Hampshire. For crying out loud, in Iowa alone it's been legal for three years....meaning your map is at least that far out of date.
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