#3808007 - 05/09/1211:06 PMRe: President Obama expresses support for same-sex marriage - May 9, 2012
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Feral
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I hope you didn't read that on Yahoo or some other nonsense. He got shit for it because of Biden. Apparently Obama's views started out supportive, but are now "evolving". Not sure what that means.
I hope you didn't read that on Yahoo or some other nonsense. He got shit for it because of Biden. Apparently Obama's views started out supportive, but are now "evolving". Not sure what that means.
#3808069 - 05/09/1211:37 PMRe: President Obama expresses support for same-sex marriage - May 9, 2012
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Originally Posted By: boones
Originally Posted By: Feral
I hope you didn't read that on Yahoo or some other nonsense. He got shit for it because of Biden. Apparently Obama's views started out supportive, but are now "evolving". Not sure what that means.
Lol. Washington Times and USA Today. Great. Everyone knows his views, they are as they were. And they are...changing?
How's that for a load of non-answering doublespeak. If he really cared, he could have said something yesterday, before NC voted on a new constitutional amendment. He knows he's not gonna get votes from the 'right', so he's going after LGBT. He's a politician. Don't defend him.
#3808135 - 05/10/1212:02 AMRe: President Obama expresses support for same-sex marriage - May 9, 2012
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Feral
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Originally Posted By: boones
Originally Posted By: Feral
Don't defend him.
No defense, just glad he said it.
That's ok, but so what? He isn't making any moves...what good are words with no action? And vice versa, when he says he's all for change and does the same shit Bush did? He's more than happy to sign legislation that allows for the arrest, detention and disappearance of American citizens without due process, and executive orders declaring martial law and federal government commandeering of private business and citizens "in times of emergency and other"...why not abuse power to do something good for once? Like recognize the inherent rights of gay people? Why does anyone say one thing and do another?
...and Kat Dennings...uuuuhuhuhuh...smother me to death woman, and I go with a smile.
#3808189 - 05/10/1212:30 AMRe: President Obama expresses support for same-sex marriage - May 9, 2012
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Originally Posted By: Feral
He's more than happy to sign legislation that allows for the arrest, detention and disappearance of American citizens without due process
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If he really cared, he could have said something yesterday, before NC voted on a new constitutional amendment.
Originally Posted By: Feral
He isn't making any moves...what good are words with no action?
I too am looking forward to additional 'moves' and 'actions' that this new statement expresses, in the same spirit as the following that have been invoked under the current administration:
- repealing "Don't Ask Don't Tell" - expanding federal benefits for the same-sex partners of those that work in the Executive branch - signing the Hate Crimes Act into law - clearing the way for hospital visitation rights for same-sex couples - lifting the Travel & Immigration Ban for people living with HIV - ordering the Federal Housing Authority to not consider the sexual orientation of people who apply for housing loans - expanding the census to make sure that people in same-sex relationships get counted - directing U.S. agencies who work with foreign countries to ensure that our humanitarian and diplomatic efforts abroad take into account the rights of gay and lesbian people in those countries - supporting states that extend marriage rights to same-sex couples
And while these were put forward before the vote in NC, just like Feral has expressed, more has to be done ... and I stand with you steadfastly in that sentiment.