*GASP* A triple agent?! I never!...
Fascinating.

Like I said before, I'm flexible. Doesn't mean I'm not practical...

...You're so full of shit and yourself it's not funny.

I do not call equating my statement as one approving of Hitler on any level "clever."
I call just more of the same base and baseless incendiary rhetoric of leftist myrmidons.
It's not the first time the left here have stooped to playing the Nazi/Hitler card.
It speaks to the weakness of their positions that they cannot present a civil and thoughtful rebuttal to a "conservative" (a misleading label btw) position.
And your willing submission to tgas' vicious lie makes me seriously question your own personal integrity.

Then why play along with tgas' attack?

I can think of several such figures as a matter of fact, most of them associated with the so-called "Progressive" movement of the mid to late 19th century/early 20th.

Individuals surrender responsibility on a personal level. And complacency and the gradual surrender of personal responsibility is a natural development in societies that have prospered for extended lengths of time.
This only becomes a serious societal problem when we have those in government who suggest the abrogation of personal responsibility as a solution to a given problem.
Collectivism was not a feature of the American mindset until our government schools began heavily pushing these concepts down our children's throats.

Careful, siding with Thucydides could get one labeled a neocon fascist.

You're a complicated character to figure out. I have a feeling I may disagree with you on issues as often as not - maybe even more often than not - but you're too blasted likeable to get mad at. Civility is often in such short supply in here - live long and prosper.

I have a tendency towards idealism that probably should serve more as a destination than a road map. The pragmatist in me says that I should help push at the wheel if the wagon is at least facing the right direction...we can argue about who should be driving once we're moving.

Frankly, it looks to me like we're just giving 150 or so legislators in each state their own personal representatives in the Senate. And since I vote for just two state legislators, that means I have no say whatsoever in the decisions the rest make, ostensibly on my behalf.

You have a potty mouth too. Charming.

To be fair, I started it. I posed a question that, no matter the slant on your spectrum, typically opens the answerer to the same path, the Great Leader process, and I did so to show its hazard.
Whether it be the 'rightist' or 'leftist' issues, the same result more often occurs than not; the State apparatus are broken or corrupt, and the only hope is the savior - it's become an archetype damn near impossible to dispose of. Precisely why can be a matter of debate; you concede it could be because of the indoctrination of generations. Most don't consider the possibility of an inherent trait of human beings to simply believe what they are told. I'd refer anyone to the U of T studies in chimpanzee learning versus human learning.
Chimps are more likely to figure something out on their own.
Humans are more likely to accept explanation from authority, even if incorrect.
People learn to read, but very rarely learn to question what they read. It is likely the reason the electoral college exists at all; not that it matters anymore, but it was thought that the presidency would consistently be decided by the inhabitants of population centers. The power of the mob; stupid people in large groups, etc. Ignorance, willful or not, is like a mental pathogen, and masses of like-minded people are incredibly dangerous, to economics, politics, and in particular to individual liberty.
Worse, is when the leader statement is made, no matter how reasonable an argument, no matter how patriotic an idea, or idyllic an imagined outcome, the truly clever, with everything to gain, can commandeer your idea. Emotion overrides reason every time; it is Bernays' propaganda practically defined. They can attach emotion to your reasoned arguments, drum up the people to accept almost anything, and you not only have lost your movement, but share in the responsibility for its actions.
And no matter your calls back to reason, the damage is done.

Army ants display collective intelligence that increases with their numbers, to the point of problem-solving.
But put 100 of them on a table, they'll march in a circle until they drop dead. It appears human beings are the opposite.
My integrity is irrelevant. I am the most persecuted minority ever to exist - an individual.
And I have yet to find an answer to the mob; wax on and on about teaching and learning, but I've stated it before...education is not intelligence.
And following that, intelligence is not wisdom.
I am left to observe, and what I observe can be amusing.

And you already know what I think of labels.

Explain why I need more representation in DC? I already have a US Representative. Explain why the individual states do not need representation in DC?

...Until then, fuck off.

Yes, yes, you already said that. Rhetorically, it weakens a statement when you repeat it.

Now it just sounds like you're just trying to be mean, instead of expressing indignant outrage.