Planned Parenthood != Abortion On Demand Factory. Those "many ways for women who do not want go through a pregnancy by making sure they don't get pregnant," guess who could help women with that? That's right! Planned Parenthood! Maybe you should donate some money to them.
And who's playing God now with that last sentence of yours?
Originally Posted By: 1oldminer
Abortion should be only be performed in situations involving rape, if the health of the mother is in endangered or the fetus has severe birth defects and has little or no chance of surviving.
Planned Parenthood = Abortion on Demand Factory???Are you trying to be funny?
Not surprising that you keep avoiding the question Foob.I'll ask again.
At what stage during pregnancy does the fetus earn the right to life and status as a human being?
And yes men can help women..the man does not get off scott free from sharing the responsibility of getting the woman pregnant in the first place. It takes two to tangle...and it takes both of them to take measures to reduce the risk of unwanted pregnancies without abortion.
And..only God has the right to decide whether or not the child will live or die. If the child does not survive for whatsoever reason medical or some other birth complications beyond the abilty of medical care.. then it is the will of God.
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Planned Parenthood != Abortion on Demand Factory. !=. Not equals.
I will continue to ignore your attempts to move off the subject.
Your last sentence in this post is not the same as your last sentence in your previous post.
Originally Posted By: 1oldminer
Abortion should be only be performed in situations involving rape, if the health of the mother is in endangered or the fetus has severe birth defects and has little or no chance of surviving.
Originally Posted By: 1oldminer
And..only God has the right to decide whether or not the child will live or die. If the child does not survive for whatsoever reason medical or some other birth complications beyond the abilty of medical care.. then it is the will of God.
Planned Parenthood != Abortion on Demand Factory. !=. Not equals.
You mean this...= but with a cross mark in the middle... or you must mean Planned Parenthood is not Abortion on Demand Factory.
But you support Abortion on Demand without regard for the rights of those who cannot speak on thier behalf.
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I will continue to ignore your attempts to move off the subject.
Your last sentence in this post is not the same as your last sentence in your previous post.
Then do what you will Foob as I am seeing you have ducked the question.
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Originally Posted By: 1oldminer
Abortion should be only be performed in situations involving rape, if the health of the mother is in endangered or the fetus has severe birth defects and has little or no chance of surviving.
Originally Posted By: 1oldminer
And..only God has the right to decide whether or not the child will live or die. If the child does not survive for whatsoever reason medical or some other birth complications beyond the abilty of medical care.. then it is the will of God.
Like I said, self contradictory.
Only by your interpretation...it is up to you to view my answer however way you want to see it.I believe that the life of the mother and that of the child lives must be maintained with the best of medical care that is available. If the child is beyond viabilty due to complications or severe birth defects that will not result in survival then it is the will of the Lord to take that child home to heaven...but medical care must still be provided for to ensure care and make the child as comfortable as possible without due suffering/pain as well allow the parents privacy and the remaining time they do have with thier child to say thier goodbyes until such time that death comes.
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To one who has faith, no explanation is necessary. To one without faith, no explanation is possible". ~Thomas Aquinas
So you do support the taking of a life. In certain situations. As decided by you.
I notice you are now leaving out the rape part.
Your questions lead down rabbit holes. Any answers given always smack against the stone wall of your incomprehension. Also, your questions tend to be used to steer the conversation away from the topic at hand to whatever it is YOU want to talk about. That is why I no longer answer your questions.
Anyhow, back to the topic at hand. I, not an atheist but on that end of the spectrum, was spurred by the actions of my state's legislature and governor to spontaneous generosity last night to donate to Planned Parenthood. Anyone else, from any end of the spectrum, have similar examples of spontaneous generosity?
So you do support the taking of a life. In certain situations. As decided by you.
I do support the death penalty but that is just my personal opinion ultimely it is not up to me. Only God can decide who shall live and who shall die.
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Your questions lead down rabbit holes. Any answers given always smack against the stone wall of your incomprehension. Also, your questions tend to be used to steer the conversation away from the topic at hand to whatever it is YOU want to talk about. That is why I no longer answer your questions.
translation you prefer to avoid the ethical and moral ramifications concerning abortion on demand. You are the one who's stonwalling here...and this topic is about atheists (or liberals in your case) supposedly having more compassion and generousity than the religious or conservatives like myself right? So what about compassion for the unborn?
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Anyhow, back to the topic at hand. I, not an atheist but on that end of the spectrum, was spurred by the actions of my state's legislature and governor to spontaneous generosity last night to donate to Planned Parenthood. Anyone else, from any end of the spectrum, have similar examples of spontaneous generosity?
Not for promoting abortion on demand to be made available at taxpayer's money...whether they support the issue or not I myself would not support it.
Rush Limbaugh recently alluded to something similar concerning taxpayers having to foot the bill for contreceptives...when that young woman petitioned the governnment to provide to pay her contreceptives which are not life-sustaining such as medication for asthma for example.
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Originally Posted By: 1oldminer
I am seeing you have ducked the question.
How does that feel, seeing as you do the EXACT same thing in nearly every post you make. Someone will pose a question directly to you, and you will ignore it outright or answer with a question of your own to evade giving an answer.
So you do support the taking of a life. In certain situations. As decided by you.
I do support the death penalty but that is just my personal opinion ultimely it is not up to me. Only God can decide who shall live and who shall die.
Abortion. You support abortion. Pay attention.
I notice you are now leaving out the rape part.
Originally Posted By: 1oldminer
Abortion should be only be performed in situations involving rape, if the health of the mother is in endangered or the fetus has severe birth defects and has little or no chance of surviving.
As for your questions, taunt all you want. I will no longer allow you to lead the conversation where you want it to go.
So, anyone have any good generosity stories to share?
I have this page bookmarked. Whenever I am tempted to answer a question from miner, I go back and look at this, to remind myself of the mindbending anti-logic which will surely follow. Behold it in all its awesomeness, and weep.
I would submit this video link on the issue on Abortion and Health Care in the words of Father Barron who is much more insightful and eloquent on the matter than I.
You would do well to listen to what he has to say on the matter.
As for the matter on rape unlike you I shall answer your question..my opinion is that when rape is involved then abortion can be consdered as a last option in the interests of the mother particularly if the rape victim is a minor.
But there is also the option of carrying that child to full term and giving the baby up for adoption if the mother is unable to care for the child.
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To one who has faith, no explanation is necessary. To one without faith, no explanation is possible". ~Thomas Aquinas
How does that feel, seeing as you do the EXACT same thing in nearly every post you make. Someone will pose a question directly to you, and you will ignore it outright or answer with a question of your own to evade giving an answer.
I have answered foob's question see my last post.
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To one who has faith, no explanation is necessary. To one without faith, no explanation is possible". ~Thomas Aquinas