I beg your pardon. This is completely false.

I have never "supported" the negative acts of man committed in the name of religion.

And if you will recall, it was I who actually banned EE_EE multiple times until he finally gave up.

As for my support for religion, any serious student of history could tell you the absolutely vital role that virtue plays in the maintenance of a republican government.

Even the godless humanists of the renaissance were not lobbying for the destruction of the Catholic church. But then most of them were educated and intelligent enough to recognize the vital role the church was playing in holding civil society together.

Sure, they recognized the church's weaknesses and faults, and some, like Erasmus, even worked to moderate said flaws, but none of those secular humanists ever pushed for a godless society completely divorced from religion.

Hell, not even our founders pushed for that, quite despite current misconceptions on the meaning and purpose of the first amendment.

Only those atheists who have swallowed the koolaide of collectivist ideologies are ignorant enough to believe that civil society is possible without virtue or that virtue is possible in a collectivist egalitarian society.

I assure you, history has proven the folly of such dreams, Plato, Moore, Hobbes and Marx aside.

What is?



...that is to say, you've somehow combined the the first two sentences of the first paragraph into one, discarding some information and keeping others. But your reorganization of what he said is not what he said, if it was your intent to refute such.



This is not what he said.



At this point you appear to be responding to me, but that does not contradict what I said. Nor does it contradict Ktulhu's related statement, incidentally.



This may be true.



Proof? Or anything even close? Or even just a precise statement?



See above.

Are you equating religion with virtue?

Show me a country in history that has banned all religion that has resulted as shining examples of virtue Feral.

While it is certainly true that religion when taken to an extreme in the form of fanaticism particularly in the middle east can result in the most negative examples of hatred.

But it has also been proven that in atheist countries has also brought out the worst in humanity.

But I say true religion can and does bring out the best in us. And there are so many excellent examples of people regardless of thier faith living thier religion faithfully and serving thier fellow man...as we ought to. So in essence without religion humanity would be be much worse off.

Antarctica is a peaceful place

Now it sounds like you are equating atheism with non-religious...and when you say atheist country, do you mean one without a state religion? And do you mean without organized religion humanity would be worse off?
Please choose your words carefully, or if there is something that might be misconstrued, clarify them. I am hesitant to respond to generalities.
I'm not attacking you or 'nitpicking', I genuinely want to hear your view.

lol, so is space. I wonder why that is..

Interesting side note: At the borders of such places that we romanticize as solitary, where people have been...Antarctica, Space, Mt. Everest...
Trash. Lots of it.
Makes me sad.

it's mostly scientists


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I don't think there's ever been a state or region that didn't have some sort of belief structure. It's human nature to believe in something, even if it's just a better future.

There is organized religions that have much that is good but much that been taught by those institutions has led the people astray from what God intend for humanity and true religion..for example the Trinity and the Godhead and that God doesn't have physical body...imo I believe the LDS teachings are the most complete form of the original church in Jesus' time.

But even with the restored gospel available to everyone if I or anyone else doesn't live by the gospel principles then I cannot claim truthfully that I am living the true religion for true religion is when an individual lives his faith and religion regardless of thier faith.