Call me devil's advocate here, but wouldn't "tens of thousands of Americans" rightfully be considered "unlikely occurrences?" I don't think luce was intentionally being insensitive. Guess it just depends what percentage is the line in the sand as to what can be deemed "unlikely."
Say what?
I doubt whether those particular individuals see the uncommon-ness of their condition as being a good justification for the failure of their country to institute a healthcare system that would look after them so that they are obliged to depend on the charity of others.
I happen to be someone who has a congenital disorder and I often wonder what the hell would have come of me if I'd been born in a country without proper healthcare.
I would like to put a gloss on writing the US is a shit country.
That's not how I think of the US in general; there are amazing aspects to it as a nation, particularly its aspirations.
But it is pretty shitty that it thinks it's more important for people to save taxes than for taxes to save people - with a decent healthcare system.
Sadly, at this moment our country is run by people who think it's more important for people to make money than it is to retain a health service that is free at the point of delivery...
I would like to put a gloss on writing the US is a shit country.
That's not how I think of the US in general; there are amazing aspects to it as a nation, particularly its aspirations.
But it is pretty shitty that it thinks it's more important for people to save taxes than for taxes to save people - with a decent healthcare system.
Ah yes. There's that civility the British are so famous for.
We'd have a perfectly fine health care system if it weren't for decades of unaccountable government bureaucrats and leftist politicians building mountains of incredibly expensive and intrusive laws and regulations that have turned our once highly effective system (as a child, my parents, despite being poor, could afford to pay a doctor to make a house call) into a nightmare of inefficiences which has actually spawned a new industry - companies that only exist to deal with government red tape, a LOT of red tape!
There are so many private-sector solutions we could enact that would vastly improve access and costs it's not funny!
But NOOOOO... these damn leftists and socialist-wannabes in government INSIST that they can do it better, DESPITE the fact that their other enterprises like Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, the USPS, and Amtrak ARE FUCKING BLOATED, INEFFICIENT AND BROKE!
Obamacare is not, in even the slightest degree, about providing greater access to cheaper health care - and it most definitely will NOT do so - it is solely and only about seizing even MORE control over the private sector and our lives and securing an even larger base of government dependent voters who are sure to pitch camp with the Democrats.
That is ALL this is about.
The fact remains, our constitution does not allow our government to take over our private health care system. And a large majority of our citizens don't want it to!
Originally Posted By: mmisterdick
Sadly, at this moment our country is run by people who think it's more important for people to make money than it is to retain a health service that is free at the point of delivery...
If you think the extremely feeble distinction of saying "free at the point of delivery" fools any one into thinking it is free - or that "free at the point of delivery" is even a meaningful distinction, then you are sorely mistaken.
Your doctor has every right to express a minority opinion, but he ceded the high ground when he called it "ObamaCare" half a dozen time. It makes him sound like he has a personal ax to grind, instead of a professional position to express.
If we want to be accurate here, it would not be fair to call this doctor's opinion a "minority opinion" just because the AMA voted by a 2:1 margin for Obamacare.
The AMA only represents between 20 and 30 percent of the nation's 800,000 doctors (depending on whose figures you use) and nearly 50 percent of those members are not full-fledged doctors but residents and medical students.
And that the AMA could only muster 2/3's of their membership, which is already a minority among the entire universe of licensed physicians (particularly when almost half of the AMA membership aren't yet full doctors) makes your statement all the more inaccurate.
Just wanted to set the record straight on this one as I had missed it earlier.
The fact remains, our constitution does not allow our government to take over our private health care system. And a large majority of our citizens don't want it to!
Yeah, but who cares right? They're too stupid to know what's good for 'em.
The fact remains, our constitution does not allow our government to take over our private health care system. And a large majority of our citizens don't want it to!
Yeah, but who cares right They're too stupid to know what's good for 'em.
Ah yes... the government knows what's best for us...
I would like to put a gloss on writing the US is a shit country...
You paint with a very broad brush every time you say this; it's killing your credibility in arguments and alienating Americans like myself who might otherwise be sympathetic to some of your points of view re:health care.
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The fact remains, our constitution does not allow our government to take over our private health care system. And a large majority of our citizens don't want it to!
Yeah, but who cares right? They're too stupid to know what's good for 'em.
I care that they are too stupid to know what's good for them.
_________________________ "There are 10 types of people in this world. Those that understand binary, and those that don't."
The fact remains, our constitution does not allow our government to take over our private health care system. And a large majority of our citizens don't want it to!
Yeah, but who cares right? They're too stupid to know what's good for 'em.
I care that they are too stupid to know what's good for them.
The fact remains, our constitution does not allow our government to take over our private health care system. And a large majority of our citizens don't want it to!
Yeah, but who cares right They're too stupid to know what's good for 'em.
I care that they are too stupid to know what's good for them.
Point taken. It's certainly true that our "public" schools have been churning out big-government myrmidons by the millions - many who are barely functional illiterates, nearly all who are entirely ignorant of our history, constitution, political system, and basic economics.
Unfortunately, the very government that thinks it knows what's best for us is the driving force behind the creation of a dumbed-down populace.
Apparently they believe that what is best for us is for us to just enough to be able to work - heaven forbid the people should dare question our leadership.
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