Isn't it amusing, how many truths there seem to be, and how hard they fight each other?


Like I said...true believer. This statement is very suspect, considering the following bad-guy dialogue:


You sound like any number of cartoon villains. But the tones I hear underneath are ovine.

Please continue.

http://forums.superiorpics.com/ubbthread...V_6#Post3747565

I'm not sure if it's the innuendo or the civil tone, but I don't think I've ever been this turned on in the P&R section.

lol. I'm glad I could contribute something.
I enjoy amicable debate. Go to any decent-sized gathering for any number of causes, and you'll find a hundred lovely, passionate, if not naive women (or men, if you prefer) that enjoy it as well. A moldable mob, formed of moldable individuals. There's always a few more ardent than others, and they are my favorite.
I like to play the devil's advocate; the more they push, the harder I come; the hotter their blood gets, the more their satisfaction.
It's a sinewy, gratifying dance, and they do love to dance with the devil.

I like that. My uncle does that with me when we talk politics. It's usually when he totally agrees that he does this just to debate.

Tex, you do know he's talking about getting laid, right?

lol. "Oh, confused, would we?"

Again, I must beg your pardon. I can be as civil as the next person, if not more so. I have no problem with people whose political or religious beliefs differ from mine and I am quite capable of civil debate on these issues.

But I am RARELY, IF EVER, treated or addressed with civility, even when I try to maintain some modecum of civility.

I learned along time ago that dicussions about religion and ESPECIALLY conservative politics here at SP are nearly always met with extreme hostility and derision by most leftists on this board.

I have been called everything but a child of god here, and that's even when I've been civil.

So pardon me if I exercise the occasional rhetorical flourish or pointed barb against intolerant and uncivil leftists.

Having spent 30 or so years working in the political and media arena, I've certainly had my fill of rude and crude treatment at the hands of committed leftists with the flexibility of a pane of glass and skin as thick as tissue paper.

And as you've professed a preference for facts, I would like to correct a factual error in your post above.

The contrast between "conservative" (I hate that word because American "conservatives" have always been liberals, as in classical liberal) protests such as Tea Party protests and leftist protests like the many OWS gatherings, or the mobs that usually attend G8, G20 or IMF meetings, could not be more stark.

Of the hundreds of Tea Party protests, there were no arrests of Tea Partiers, the protestors were law abiding, they did not clash with police, they got all the proper permits (where needed) for their events, they did not block traffic or businesses, and they always left the spaces they occupied cleaner than they found it, and they had focused and coherent messages which they acted on on September of 2010, all strictly in keeping with the law (with very few exceptions to all of the above).

OWS, on the other hand, routinely violated the law, illegally "occupying" private and sometimes public property (against various local ordinances), engaged in the destruction of public and private property, blocked traffic and private businesses, fought with police and were arrested by the dozens, engaged in nonsensical sloganeering (we are the 99%), had no coherent message, set forth a stream of selfish redistributionist demands, shouted down any dissenting opinions (even threatening physical violence and even practicing it) and left horrific messes which local municipalities had to clean up at public expense (again, with very few exceptions to all of the above).

In other words, they behaved as you outlined above and much worse.

The differences between the two protest movements could not be more stark.

Just wanted to set the record straight on that.

If anyone remembers the history of the politics section, they will know that dblboggie has produced more posts of real substance than anyone on here. Do you remember the marathon threads between him and matt? It's obvious he put hours of time into some of those posts (many of which contained a great deal of research). To call him (or texasblue for that matter) a troll is a mischaracterization; they have both contributed lengthy, thoughtful posts over the years.

I certainly have no interest in defending the personal attacks made by anyone on here either, but I can understand the frustration from posters (on either side) considering the way this section has gotten a bit out of hand in recent months. But it doesn't make those guys "trolls." They've rigidly, eloquently stated their opinions and refuted opposing arguments too many times on here to be given that label.

Well said MD!

Anyone who puts the effort of posting the lengthy but well informed responses as DBL has done should be given at least a measure of respect of the amount of time he spent doing that kind of extensive research on the topic at hand even if one may not agree with his political views. At least one ought to acknowledge that.

Most of us here would not have that kind of commitment or the patience to do that. We including myself would prefer to take the easy route of copy and pasting to prove our point.