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I don't think I need to comment on the article itself, I think both you and I, miner are in agreement, that such a thing is wrong.
But I hope you don't seek to associate the idea of an academic person with the idea of killing babies, because that would be wrong, just like killing babies is.
_________________________ An Eagle was soaring through the air when suddenly it heard the whizz of an Arrow, and felt itself wounded to death. Slowly it fluttered down to the earth, with its life-blood pouring out of it. Looking down upon the Arrow with which it had been pierced, it found that the shaft of the Arrow had been feathered with one of its own plumes. "Alas!" it cried, as it died,
"We often give our enemies the means for our own destruction."
This has nothing to do with academia, as you rightly point out. Rather, this what the extreme left looks like.
Remember, it was Obama, as an Illinois state senator, who actually voted against "Born Alive" legislation - a bill to prohibit the cold-blooded murder of babies who had the temerity to survive "labor induced abortions." In other words, Obama voted for infanticide, since there is no other word to accurately describe the killing of a child actually born alive. And just so I'm understood here, these weren't partial-birth abortions (which are bad enough IMHO), but full, live births.
And if a leftist like Obama could actually support something like that, it would seem like short hop, skip and a jump to a realiztion of the more extreme concepts in the article cited above.
As extreme as those concepts may seem to us now, those of us old enough to remember will understand just how utterly shocking a procedure like partial-birth abortion would seemed just 40 or 50 years ago.
So while the concepts in the article might seem to be merely the musings of far-left medical ethicists that would never see traction in a civil society, consider the defeat of a "Born Alive" law in Illinois.
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Originally Posted By: dblboggie
This has nothing to do with academia, as you rightly point out. Rather, this what the extreme left looks like.
Remember, it was Obama, as an Illinois state senator, who actually voted against "Born Alive" legislation - a bill to prohibit the cold-blooded murder of babies who had the temerity to survive "labor induced abortions." In other words, Obama voted for infanticide, since there is no other word to accurately describe the killing of a child actually born alive.
And if a leftist like Obama could actually support something like that, it would seem like short hop, skip and a jump to realiztion of the more extreme concepts in the article cited above.
Well, I again just hope you're not talking to me or about me, is all. I hope that you don't think "far left" == "left," because that would be wrong. Much like thinking "communist" == "left," as I said recently.
_________________________ An Eagle was soaring through the air when suddenly it heard the whizz of an Arrow, and felt itself wounded to death. Slowly it fluttered down to the earth, with its life-blood pouring out of it. Looking down upon the Arrow with which it had been pierced, it found that the shaft of the Arrow had been feathered with one of its own plumes. "Alas!" it cried, as it died,
"We often give our enemies the means for our own destruction."
This has nothing to do with academia, as you rightly point out. Rather, this what the extreme left looks like.
Remember, it was Obama, as an Illinois state senator, who actually voted against "Born Alive" legislation - a bill to prohibit the cold-blooded murder of babies who had the temerity to survive "labor induced abortions." In other words, Obama voted for infanticide, since there is no other word to accurately describe the killing of a child actually born alive.
And if a leftist like Obama could actually support something like that, it would seem like short hop, skip and a jump to realiztion of the more extreme concepts in the article cited above.
Well, I again just hope you're not talking to me or about me, is all. I hope that you don't think "far left" == "left," because that would be wrong. Much like thinking "communist" == "left," as I said recently.
No, I was not talking to or about you. And I'm not a political novice, as you well know, so I don't confuse the left for the far-left or center-left and so on. And I draw distictions in the various flavors of leftist ideologies like social-democracy, socialism, communism, Marxism, fascism, and the various mixes and degrees to which these ideologies have been applied.
But one thing is true here, and that is that all the ideologies I mention above belong on the left of the political spectrum, and the further left one moves, the more extreme are the restrictions on personal liberty, the more collectivist society becomes, and the more central authority and force are required.
And the further right one goes, the more sane and reasonable things get
Until one begins to approach anarchy, yes.
But in truth, even the most committed of classical liberals realize the necessity of things such as reasonable restrictions on personal liberty in the form of laws and regulations, as well as social safety nets for the truly needy.
But one could hardly call what we have today "reasonable."
And the further right one goes, the more sane and reasonable things get
Until one begins to approach anarchy, yes.
But in truth, even the most committed of classical liberals realize the necessity of things such as reasonable restrictions on personal liberty in the form of laws and regulations, as well as social safety nets for the truly needy.
But one could hardly call what we have today "reasonable."
So you really do believe that conservative is inherently more correct than liberal. Good to know. And you guys wonder why you are viewed as arrogant.
Hey, did you see that your fat Buddha Rush got the smackdown today? Actually apologized and everything. Not until his financial well being was at stake, of course. Somehow he didn't realize for about three days how repulsive his statements were, until sponsors started dropping his show.
Now, take this political garbage bat to the politics section where it belongs.
And the further right one goes, the more sane and reasonable things get
Until one begins to approach anarchy, yes.
But in truth, even the most committed of classical liberals realize the necessity of things such as reasonable restrictions on personal liberty in the form of laws and regulations, as well as social safety nets for the truly needy.
But one could hardly call what we have today "reasonable."
So you really do believe that conservative is inherently more correct than liberal.
Of course I do! Do you think I've been lying about my classical liberal (what we now mistakenly call "conservative") views?
Have you not read even a single history book?
Classical liberal positions favor all those things that have made America the most powerful, free and prosperous nation in the entire history of mankind.
Sadly, we left that path in 1913 and have only wandered further from it ever since.
Originally Posted By: foobar456
Good to know. And you guys wonder why you are viewed as arrogant.
Oh sure... it is only those on the right that believe their positions are best.
You just have to be kidding here, right?
We have leftists FORCING their agenda on Americans via the courts (like parents of minor children having no say in their having abortions), and it is the "right" who is "arrogant" in your view.
Pathetic foob.
Originally Posted By: foobar456
Hey, did you see that your fat Buddha Rush got the smackdown today Actually apologized and everything. Not until his financial well being was at stake, of course. Somehow he didn't realize for about three days how repulsive his statements were, until sponsors started dropping his show.
No, I did not see that. But I will say that a college student saying that I should pay for her promiscuity is beyond outrageous. A woman that would go on record, saying her contraceptive costs were $3,000 dollars during her 3 years in law school at a Catholic university, and who would have the nerve to say that I should subsidize that DESERVES to be called what she is... A WHORE!!!
What the fuck universe are we living in here??? Since when is contraception something the American taxpayer should be saddled with!!!
DON'T HAVE SEX IF YOU CAN'T AFFORD IT!!! WHAT THE FUCK!!! SHOULD TAXPAYER'S PAY FOR HOOKERS TOO???
The fucking country has gone stark staring MAD!!!
BUY YOUR OWN FUCKING CONDOMS AND BIRTH CONTROL PILLS!!!
Originally Posted By: foobar456
Now take this political garbage bat to the politics section where it belongs.
I'd welcome that if only people here would actually address these issues there, rather than ducking and running.
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