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#3690970 - 02/25/12 01:15 AM Re: Winning! [Re: nblsavage]
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And by evidence you mean only of a physical nature.
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#3690976 - 02/25/12 01:21 AM Re: Winning! [Re: Crux Australis]
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Originally Posted By: Crux Australis
And by evidence you mean only of a physical nature.



Exactly..

and as such are those who are sign-seekers.
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#3690978 - 02/25/12 01:24 AM Re: Winning! [Re: 1oldminer]
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If there is no physicality, there is no evidence, kids.
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#3690979 - 02/25/12 01:26 AM Re: Winning! [Re: 1oldminer]
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Originally Posted By: 1oldminer
...That may be so tgas but the extreme side of islam far outnumber those on the christianity side....


And of course that's the way I see it too these days, at least in terms of militarism.

But I fear that may be a pyrrhic victory, being satisfied with having fewer extremists. Ours may not work with explosives, but I've seen them spew the most hateful, hurtful vitriol at their own countrymen and women, for little reason other than a sanctimonious belief that God has already judged the righteousness of their cause. In that respect, they start to look and sound disturbingly like their Islamic counterparts.
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#3690982 - 02/25/12 01:28 AM Re: Winning! [Re: tgas2010]
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A fundamentalist Christian will cause you to lose your mind.

A fundamentalist Muslim will cause you to lose your head.
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#3690988 - 02/25/12 01:33 AM Re: Winning! [Re: Crux Australis]
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Originally Posted By: Crux Australis
A fundamentalist Christian will cause you to lose your mind.

A fundamentalist Muslim will cause you to lose your head.



Islam is still a power, unlike Christianity, which has had it's power curtailed until it has to play nice. There is very little difference between the Islam of now and the Christianity of a few centuries back.
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#3690992 - 02/25/12 01:37 AM Re: Winning! [Re: Crux Australis]
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Originally Posted By: Crux Australis
And by evidence you mean only of a physical nature.


If you could come up with a mathematical proof I think that would satisfy me. cheeky
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#3691004 - 02/25/12 01:58 AM Re: Winning! [Re: tgas2010]
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Originally Posted By: 1oldminer
...That may be so tgas but the extreme side of islam far outnumber those on the christianity side....


And of course that's the way I see it too these days, at least in terms of militarism.

But I fear that may be a pyrrhic victory, being satisfied with having fewer extremists. Ours may not work with explosives, but I've seen them spew the most hateful, hurtful vitriol at their own countrymen and women, for little reason other than a sanctimonious belief that God has already judged the righteousness of their cause. In that respect, they start to look and sound disturbingly like their Islamic counterparts.


Yes unfortunately they do exist as evidence we have clearly seen right here with Corn Ball AKA EE_EE with his take on black folks. People like Corn Ball who say they're christian and say things like that are clearly not all together in the head but as I said earlier... they are thankfully few and far between to be any actual threat.

I don't think America or Canada for that matter needs to worry about fundemental christian extremists as much as we do need to worry about fundemental islamic extremism...and the muslim community needs to be very concerned with the threat of islamic extremism as well.

I also worry about the militantism growing within the ranks of the athesist movement...and that bodes ill as well for our society.
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#3691006 - 02/25/12 02:04 AM Re: Winning! [Re: 1oldminer]
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Originally Posted By: 1oldminer


I also worry about the militantism growing within the ranks of the athesist movement...and that bodes ill as well for our society.



*snort* The worst an atheist will do is hurt your feelings.
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#3691010 - 02/25/12 02:08 AM Re: Winning! [Re: 1oldminer]
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I also worry about the militantism growing within the ranks of the athesist movement...and that bodes ill as well for our society.

Examples, please. And it better not be Bill Maher. That's not militantism, that's prickism. People making fun of you are not militants.
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