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#3681660 - 02/18/12 08:59 AM Re: To understand the things of God you need the Spirit of God and that requires some faith [Re: gumby666]
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of course I'm arguing with someone who believes that a scam artist found gold tablets and deciphered them with magic glasses.. soooo maybe I just like to torture myself


If Joseph Smith was such a liar and scam artist why would he suffer taunts and scorn from nieghbours, friends... death threats to himself and his family and loved ones..forced to leave his home several times, jailed...be tarred and feathered and even die for his beliefs at the hand of an angry mob if he knew that that it all was a scam?
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#3681901 - 02/18/12 03:17 PM Re: To understand the things of God you need the Spirit of God and that requires some faith [Re: nblsavage]
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Originally Posted By: nblsavage
Corn Ball, it's adorable that you think that your god isn't an amalgamation of deities that came before. Sorry for you having to live your life with this delusion. I do hope you snap out of it someday. Being rational is actually very nice.

The Bible was written by men, who wanted to control others. Seems to have done the trick, but nothing lasts forever.



I'm delusional and irrational? Have you seen the adult literacy and college literacy surveys? The last thing that most people are is rational. I, on the other hand, have a half dozen A's in university math and passed a course in real analysis so I'm highly rational.
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#3681915 - 02/18/12 03:42 PM Re: To understand the things of God you need the Spirit of God and that requires some faith [Re: Corn Ball]
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Originally Posted By: Corn Ball
Originally Posted By: nblsavage
Corn Ball, it's adorable that you think that your god isn't an amalgamation of deities that came before. Sorry for you having to live your life with this delusion. I do hope you snap out of it someday. Being rational is actually very nice.

The Bible was written by men, who wanted to control others. Seems to have done the trick, but nothing lasts forever.



I'm delusional and irrational? Have you seen the adult literacy and college literacy surveys? The last thing that most people are is rational. I, on the other hand, have a half dozen A's in university math and passed a course in real analysis so I'm highly rational.
A half a dozen?!?!!????! Wow!!! ahhh

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#3681920 - 02/18/12 03:53 PM Re: To understand the things of God you need the Spirit of God and that requires some faith [Re: foobar456]
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Originally Posted By: foobar456
A half a dozen?!?!!????! Wow!!! ahhh


And you?
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#3681924 - 02/18/12 03:59 PM Re: To understand the things of God you need the Spirit of God and that requires some faith [Re: Corn Ball]
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More'n that. I had the luxury of taking college math courses in high school, plus post grad.

Doesn't matter any way. If you really understood those literacy studies you crow about all the time, you'd know that good grades don't necessarily translate into intelligence.
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#3681932 - 02/18/12 04:05 PM Re: To understand the things of God you need the Spirit of God and that requires some faith [Re: foobar456]
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Originally Posted By: foobar456
More'n that. I had the luxury of taking college math courses in high school, plus post grad.


You got any proof? I look at the college literacy survey results on basic quantitative literacy and play the odds and say it's unlikely.

See Figure 2.2 here on page 19 here:

http://www.air.org/files/The20Literacy20of20Americas20College20Students_final20report.pdf


Originally Posted By: foobar456
Doesn't matter any way. If you really understood those literacy studies you crow about all the time, you'd know that good grades don't necessarily translate into intelligence.


Now I'm even more certain.
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#3681956 - 02/18/12 04:57 PM Re: To understand the things of God you need the Spirit of God and that requires some faith [Re: Corn Ball]
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Good for you man. thumb
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#3681987 - 02/18/12 05:26 PM Re: To understand the things of God you need the Spirit of God and that requires some faith [Re: foobar456]
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EE_EE's college experience:

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#3682021 - 02/18/12 06:17 PM Re: To understand the things of God you need the Spirit of God and that requires some faith [Re: 1oldminer]
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Originally Posted By: 1oldminer

As for Pharoah all he had to do was simply let the hebrew people go and Egypt would not have had to endure the plagues.

He refused....


Except he was GOING to let them go. Then god "hardened his heart", IE, fucked with his mind to prevent him from letting them go. Then he continued to heap punishment on him for failing to let them go.

Your god is a fucking bastard of a jackass.

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#3682553 - 02/19/12 12:34 AM Re: To understand the things of God you need the Spirit of God and that requires some faith [Re: Kthulhu]
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A long while back I started a thread based on a comment I read somewhere on line:

Why didn't God just kill Pharoah?

It would have saved uncounted innocent Hebrew and Egyptian lives, and been an object lesson to the next guy who put on the pointy hat.
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