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#3695970 - 02/27/12 08:52 PM Re: We must stop this corporate takeover of American democracy [Re: dblboggie]
lu61f3r Offline
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Originally Posted By: dblboggie
I responded to that comment TWICE, unlike you who has yet to do anything but play semantic games.

I can't help that you object to my response. Businesses should have the right to make unlimited donations for as long as government and private sector unions possess the same rights. Otherwise there is no balance and everything goes the way government and leftists wish.

And as you only express an objection to corporate participation, one is led to believe you desire that unbalanced state.

And now that makes THREE times I have responded to a single point of yours.

I'm gonna guess you'll now want to make that four.


Why should any entity be allowed unlimited donations?
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#3749627 - 04/06/12 04:13 PM Re: We must stop this corporate takeover of American democracy [Re: dblboggie]
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Originally Posted By: dblboggie
Originally Posted By: lu61f3r
Originally Posted By: dblboggie


Non-responsive and off topic.


Again, it's a response to one of your posts. If it's off-topic, so was that post.

Really, dbl, I might actually read that book, if indeed you are claiming that all leftists are communists, as well as Hayek, in that book. I'd be interested to see how someone might attempt to prove that.

But again, it was only implied in your posts, is that actually what you were saying, or no

I would actually be interested in the book, dbl, if it was what you and he were saying. But I may have misinterpreted your post, I admit.


no All that copy and not a response in sight.


Originally Posted By: lu61f3r
Again, it's a response to one of your posts.
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"We often give our enemies the means for our own destruction."

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#3749638 - 04/06/12 04:25 PM Re: We must stop this corporate takeover of American democracy [Re: dblboggie]
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Originally Posted By: dblboggie
It's like watching those newscasters covering an accident scene where they haven't gotten any facts yet, but they still talk and talk and talk some more, all the time saying not a damn thing that's relevant or meaningful. It's filling dead air with blather till the facts come in.


Originally Posted By: lu61f3r
Everything i've said has been relevant to posts you have made. If they are irrelevant, then those posts of yours were also irrelevant.


As far as meaningfulness, this depends on the context. And the observer.

Originally Posted By: dblboggie
All the rest of this copy you are churning out is useless dead air.


You mean, not useful to you? ...and?

In any case, in the text of mine you reference, the informational content of them tends to mimic that which they respond to. Assuming that's what you meant by "dead air."
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"We often give our enemies the means for our own destruction."

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#3749747 - 04/06/12 05:26 PM Re: We must stop this corporate takeover of American democracy [Re: lu61f3r]
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Diego had traveled long and hard, and finally reached the border of his land, at the center of a wide green pasture. Carlos was waiting, and between them, sat a large pile of fresh droppings, left by one of their cows. They stood, facing each other, each on their own side. Carlos rolled his sleeves and cracked his knuckles.
"It has been a long time, amigo."
"Indeed it has," Diego responded, rolling up his own sleeves and flexing his shoulders.
Carlos seemed unimpressed, and continued. "I've been waiting for this a long time," he said, and pointed down at the pile.
"Now...you will eat the manure."
Diego laughed halfheartedly at this, and drew his dagger. "I don't think so, my friend. YOU will eat the manure."
Carlos grinned and shook his head. "YOU eat it," he said as he drew his sword.
Diego glared and drew his pistol. "You."
Carlos gritted his teeth and drew his pistol as well. "You."
They both cocked their weapons and aimed, and stood for quite a while.

Then they had lunch.



"You respond!"
"No, YOU respond!"
"I will, once you respond to my response!"
All of you need to stop throwing and eating shit and make a point. Even better - make it without referencing previous posts. Then we can continue.

*eats popcorn and waits*

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#3761013 - 04/12/12 11:30 PM Re: We must stop this corporate takeover of American democracy [Re: Feral]
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#3761091 - 04/13/12 12:39 AM Re: We must stop this corporate takeover of American democracy [Re: Feral]
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Originally Posted By: Feral
Diego had traveled long and hard, and finally reached the border of his land, at the center of a wide green pasture. Carlos was waiting, and between them, sat a large pile of fresh droppings, left by one of their cows. They stood, facing each other, each on their own side. Carlos rolled his sleeves and cracked his knuckles.
"It has been a long time, amigo."
"Indeed it has," Diego responded, rolling up his own sleeves and flexing his shoulders.
Carlos seemed unimpressed, and continued. "I've been waiting for this a long time," he said, and pointed down at the pile.
"Now...you will eat the manure."
Diego laughed halfheartedly at this, and drew his dagger. "I don't think so, my friend. YOU will eat the manure."
Carlos grinned and shook his head. "YOU eat it," he said as he drew his sword.
Diego glared and drew his pistol. "You."
Carlos gritted his teeth and drew his pistol as well. "You."
They both cocked their weapons and aimed, and stood for quite a while.

Then they had lunch.



"You respond!"
"No, YOU respond!"
"I will, once you respond to my response!"
All of you need to stop throwing and eating shit and make a point. Even better - make it without referencing previous posts. Then we can continue.

*eats popcorn and waits*


This is a BS post Feral. I've made my position MORE than clear, REPEATEDLY.

It is lu61f3r that REFUSES to answer a SINGLE question put to him.

You need to read, with an objective mind this trolls posts.

He does NOT answer direct questions, he only reponds with questions... he is a troll and a coward.
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#3761600 - 04/13/12 04:43 AM Re: We must stop this corporate takeover of American democracy [Re: dblboggie]
Feral Offline
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Originally Posted By: bddoggie
This is a BS post Feral. I've made my position MORE than clear, REPEATEDLY.
Ah, I'll give you that one for the first half, but it is difficult to see your positions between wordplay and insults and responses to wordplay and insults. It happens, and I'm seeing on this board, it happens often.
Originally Posted By: bddoggie

It is lu61f3r that REFUSES to answer a SINGLE question put to him.

I wouldn't say that. Before the semantics and name calling, Luc challenged to note a union as involved as a corporation. I saw that challenge as met, and Luc, you could have simply conceded the point before continuing; you chose not to.
I also saw little civility when he did so; it was a stream of things like "fraud" and "rant" and "ignorant" and "go read this book".
Then assumptive interrogation, dismissal, dismissal, explanation of possible misinterpretation, referential dismissal, seeking third party agreement of dismissal, referential statement, possible resurrection (I had hope here!), conditional dismissal, dismissal, ad inobservantium, ad inscitium, ad nauseum.
Originally Posted By: bddoggie

You need to read, with an objective mind this trolls posts.

I absolutely was...but most exchanges were replete with semantics and slight, even those with decent sets of fact. I had a feeling we lost most of what little audience there was, if for nothing more than that.
Originally Posted By: bddoggie
He does NOT answer direct questions, he only reponds with questions... he is a troll and a coward.
Case in point.

I had a feeling everyone would end up agreeing on certain points, and I found myself agreeing with certain points from everyone, but it quickly devolved from debate into bitching.
Like in prison, bitches can piss and moan, but bigger men get their say, and can get it without calling a bitch a bitch.

My recommendation was to be the bigger men. Stop qualifying each other's responses, or lack thereof, and formulate contention. I'd still like to see that.

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#3761674 - 04/13/12 05:31 AM Re: We must stop this corporate takeover of American democracy [Re: Feral]
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Originally Posted By: dblboggie
It is lu61f3r that REFUSES to answer a SINGLE question put to him.


Well, this is false.

For anyone who cares, I gave a statement of principle at the end of page 6.
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"We often give our enemies the means for our own destruction."

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#3762836 - 04/14/12 01:39 AM Re: We must stop this corporate takeover of American democracy [Re: lu61f3r]
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You know trying to have a civilized debate is impossible when calling people "trolls" starts.
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#3763092 - 04/14/12 05:27 AM Re: We must stop this corporate takeover of American democracy [Re: Twerker]
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Originally Posted By: Twerker
You know trying to have a civilized debate is impossible when calling people "trolls" starts.


Pot, meet kettle. Some of us try to have actual debate.
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