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#3646286 - 01/26/12 06:41 AM Re: What should you do to save your eternal soul? [Re: conanofthenight]
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Originally Posted By: conanofthenight
2:161 Lo! Those who disbelieve, and die while they are disbelievers; on them is the curse of Allah and of angels and of men combined.



Do the Muslims seem blessed to you? Trampled under foot by Christendom for centuries and you could count their Nobel Science winners on one hand.


Galatians 1:8-9

8 But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let them be under God’s curse! 9 As we have already said, so now I say again: If anybody is preaching to you a gospel other than what you accepted, let them be under God’s curse!
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#3646291 - 01/26/12 06:44 AM Re: What should you do to save your eternal soul? [Re: foobar456]
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Religion is the emulation of the adult by the child. Religion is the encystment of past beliefs: mythology, which is guesswork, the assumptions of trust in the universe, those pronouncements which men have made in search of personal power, all of it mingled with shreds of enlightenment. And always the ultimate unspoken commandment is "Thou shalt not question!" But we question. We break that commandment as a matter of course. The work to which we have set ourselves is the liberating of the imagination, the harnessing of imagination to humankind's deepest sense of creativity.

--The Sisterhood's Credo



More ramblings from nerd-dom.

Here's the fitting response http://youtu.be/7zWNJHS9PBE
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#3646831 - 01/26/12 05:32 PM Re: What should you do to save your eternal soul? [Re: Corn Ball]
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Originally Posted By: Corn Ball

Galatians 1:8-9

8 But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let them be under God’s curse! 9 As we have already said, so now I say again: If anybody is preaching to you a gospel other than what you accepted, let them be under God’s curse!

3:85 And whoso seeketh as religion other than the Surrender (to Allah) it will not be accepted from him, and he will be a loser in the Hereafter.

5:73 They surely disbelieve who say: Lo! Allah is the third of three; when there is no God save the One God. If they desist not from so saying a painful doom will fall on those of them who disbelieve.

98:6 Lo! those who disbelieve, among the People of the Scripture (Jews and Christians) and the idolaters, will abide in fire of hell. They are the worst of created beings.

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#3646842 - 01/26/12 05:40 PM Re: What should you do to save your eternal soul? [Re: conanofthenight]
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Obviously Muslims and Jews and Christians can't be all correct then?
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#3647075 - 01/26/12 07:01 PM Re: What should you do to save your eternal soul? [Re: conanofthenight]
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Originally Posted By: conanofthenight
Originally Posted By: Corn Ball

Galatians 1:8-9

8 But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let them be under God’s curse! 9 As we have already said, so now I say again: If anybody is preaching to you a gospel other than what you accepted, let them be under God’s curse!

3:85 And whoso seeketh as religion other than the Surrender (to Allah) it will not be accepted from him, and he will be a loser in the Hereafter.

5:73 They surely disbelieve who say: Lo! Allah is the third of three; when there is no God save the One God. If they desist not from so saying a painful doom will fall on those of them who disbelieve.

98:6 Lo! those who disbelieve, among the People of the Scripture (Jews and Christians) and the idolaters, will abide in fire of hell. They are the worst of created beings.


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#3647331 - 01/27/12 12:22 AM Re: What should you do to save your eternal soul? [Re: Crux Australis]
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Originally Posted By: Crux Australis
Obviously Muslims and Jews and Christians can't be all correct then?

Obviously. They can, though, all be wrong.

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#3647337 - 01/27/12 12:28 AM Re: What should you do to save your eternal soul? [Re: Crux Australis]
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Originally Posted By: Crux Australis
Obviously Muslims and Jews and Christians can't be all correct then?

In some ways they can all be correct and in some ways, no they can't. The so called Western religions have a lot in common.

But a more radical or more literary interpretation of certain doctrines and texts won't leave much space for agreement, be it between religions, or religious worldview and other worldviews.
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#3647339 - 01/27/12 12:30 AM Re: What should you do to save your eternal soul? [Re: Crux Australis]
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Originally Posted By: Crux Australis
Obviously Muslims and Jews and Christians can't be all correct then?


But they could all be equally wrong.


"In the sweet spring a grassy bank I sought
And thither wine and a fair Houri brought;
And, though the people called me graceless dog,
Gave not to Paradise another thought!"
-from the Rubaiyat of Omar Khayyam (Whinfield)
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#3647344 - 01/27/12 12:33 AM Re: What should you do to save your eternal soul? [Re: tgas2010]
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wow, that's a beautiful poem, hadn't heard of it before.
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#3648379 - 01/28/12 12:57 AM Re: What should you do to save your eternal soul? [Re: Oriental Knight]
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Originally Posted By: Oriental Knight
wow, that's a beautiful poem, hadn't heard of it before.


Edward FitzGerald's translation/arrangement of all the quatrains is even better.
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