There was a study recently that suggested the placebo effect can take place even when the person knows they are getting a placebo. Maybe prayer can be useful for everyone after all.
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Originally Posted By: Funambulist
It's interesting how DLH and Foobar in particular are using scientific language (placebo effect) to discuss prayer as if it were some medication.
Is it really a bad descriptor for the effect of prayer?
A person's mental state changed, for apparently no reason other than their own thoughts?
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My sister recently was operated on for mouth cancer, she was given a 5% chance of survival, well she thankfully did and still is surviving. She puts this down to her church members prayers...personally, my thanks go to some VERY skilled and dedicated surgeons!!
My sister recently was operated on for mouth cancer, she was given a 5% chance of survival, well she thankfully did and still is surviving. She puts this down to her church members prayers...personally, my thanks go to some VERY skilled and dedicated surgeons!!
No one is saying that the doctors and surgeons were highly skilled in saving your sister's life...and I pray that she continues to do well and has a speedy recover.
All I'm saying that prayers certainly can't hurt.
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1oldminer- "No one is saying that the doctors and surgeons were highly skilled in saving your sister's life...and I pray that she continues to do well and has a speedy recover."
Thank you for your offer of prayers for my sister, unfortunately, this would be pretty inneffectual as you do not even know who she is!
Prayer - Useful or Useless....in this case certainly useless!