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#2333968 - 11/25/09 06:25 PM Re: ClimateGate Totally Ignored By TV News [Re: TexasBlue]
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wow, the fanatics really DO treat this made up BS like a religion.

Man made global warming is FAKE, the science was FAKE your religion is FAKE
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#2333971 - 11/25/09 06:26 PM Re: ClimateGate Totally Ignored By TV News [Re: TexasBlue]
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Originally Posted By: TexasBlue
my default position will be to assume that every climate story or global warming story that I see in the MSM is a flat out lie.
As you have said to others here Tex "never assume, because when you do, you make an ass of yourself"
Though the right saying goes "Never Assume, for when you do, you make an ass of u and me" cheeky
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#2334002 - 11/25/09 06:42 PM Re: ClimateGate Totally Ignored By TV News [Re: TexasBlue]
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Originally Posted By: TexasBlue
Some of Jones’ e-mails openly and specifically admit to flat-out lying about raw climate data, as well as about climate data that had been collected and processed. He also encouraged a number of other prominent climate scientists to do the same, even detailing the best ways to mathematically cheat. The way these things almost always work in the real world, is that Jones is probably just the tip of a very large iceberg.

Jones was well aware that his climate center was the leading center, of only four in the world, that was entrusted with generating, maintaining, collating and disseminating raw climate data. Jones openly admits to destroying data, hiding data, cherry picking data, and dishonestly processing data, knowing that the U.N. and thousands of other scientists, organizations, and governments would be using his falsified raw data to make trends and to draw conclusions. He did this knowing that government policies in dozens of countries (at least) and the use of hundreds of billions of dollars of taxpayer money was at stake.

As of now, we won't know which stories about the climate and about global warming are true, which stories are wild exaggerations, and which stories are complete fabrications. Until all climate scientists, and their data and models, have been investigated and cleaned up, my default position will be to assume that every climate story or global warming story that I see in the MSM is a flat out lie.


You can start by ignoring the media and actually reading some proper climate science websites. For somebody who continues to maintain his neutrality, you are very quick to attack climate change activists and surprisingly silent in criticising tactics of the sceptics.

America
http://climate.nasa.gov/
http://www.epa.gov/climatechange/

British
http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/climatechange/
http://royalsociety.org/LandingPage_WF.aspx?pageid=7355&terms=climate
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#2334010 - 11/25/09 06:44 PM Re: ClimateGate Totally Ignored By TV News [Re: Grubber]
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Originally Posted By: Grubber
wow, the fanatics really DO treat this made up BS like a religion.

Man made global warming is FAKE, the science was FAKE your religion is FAKE


You know Grubber, something tells me that your science education falls quite short of the average... just a hunch.
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#2334049 - 11/25/09 06:58 PM Re: ClimateGate Totally Ignored By TV News [Re: Moonman]
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Originally Posted By: Moonman
As you have said to others here Tex "never assume, because when you do, you make an ass of yourself"
Though the right saying goes "Never Assume, for when you do, you make an ass of u and me" cheeky


Yep, i'm aware of that. I might be made an ass of in due time. I'll accept it if it happens.
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#2334162 - 11/25/09 07:43 PM Re: ClimateGate Totally Ignored By TV News [Re: Grubber]
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wow, the fanatics really DO treat this made up BS like a religion.

Man made global warming is FAKE, the science was FAKE your religion is FAKE
Do you have any viable proof of you claim?
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#2334610 - 11/26/09 12:53 AM Re: ClimateGate Totally Ignored By TV News [Re: Moonman]
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well, the subject of this thread is viable proof that the hoax of man made global warming is just that, a HOAX

the FACT is that there is no concensus and there never was.

the FACT is that a volcano puts out more in a DAY than mankind has in HISTORY

the FACT is that it is getting COOLER, not warmer, and has been for decades.

man made global warming is a HOAX that only idiots buy into
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#2334620 - 11/26/09 01:13 AM Re: ClimateGate Totally Ignored By TV News [Re: Grubber]
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the FACT is that a volcano puts out more in a DAY than mankind has in HISTORY
The USGS would disagree with you on that one.
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#2334634 - 11/26/09 01:38 AM Re: ClimateGate Totally Ignored By TV News [Re: foobar456]
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http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2002105397_volcano01m.html

Environmentalists hooted when Ronald Reagan claimed — wrongly — that trees produce more pollution than cars.

But right now, the biggest single source of air pollution in Washington isn't a power plant, pulp mill or anything else created by man.

It's a volcano.
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#2334659 - 11/26/09 02:20 AM Re: ClimateGate Totally Ignored By TV News [Re: Grubber]
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http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2002105397_volcano01m.html

Environmentalists hooted when Ronald Reagan claimed — wrongly — that trees produce more pollution than cars.

But right now, the biggest single source of air pollution in Washington isn't a power plant, pulp mill or anything else created by man.

It's a volcano.
Read that article again. The WHOLE article this time. Then come back and tell me how it supports your "fact" over the United States Geological Survey's ACTUAL facts.
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