#2321555 - 11/19/0906:00 PMRe: A dutch member of parliament warning of Islamazation of Europe
[Re: 1oldminer]
DeepAtSea
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Originally Posted By: 1oldminer
Originally Posted By: DeepAtSea
bubble and i, we answered you, don't make as if you haven't seen it.
bubbles at least was honest enough to answer the question not you.
Where have you provided the evidence of Mr. Wilders' extremist views and actions???
Originally Posted By: DeepAtSea
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In France school teachers are advised to avoid authors deemed offensive to Muslims, including Voltaire and Diderot; the same is increasingly true of Darwin. The history of the Holocaust can no longer be taught because of Muslim sensitivity.
the oldest of my 2 daughters, she's 9 years and at the school, she reads "Zadig" of "Voltaire", she goes to a public school...
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The history of the Holocaust can no longer be taught because of Muslim sensitivity.
huge bullshit!!! french school are laic!!! RELIGION ARE ILLEGAL!!!!!
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Many neighborhoods in France are no-go areas for women without head scarves.
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Jews are fleeing France in record numbers, on the run for the worst wave of anti-Semitism since World War II. French is now commonly spoken on the streets of Tel Aviv and Netanya, Israel. I could go on forever with stories like this.
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The Pew Research Center reported that half of French Muslims see their loyalty to Islam as greater than their loyalty to France. One-third of French Muslims do not object to suicide attacks.
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Much of this street violence I mentioned is directed exclusively against non-Muslims, forcing many native people to leave their neighborhoods, their cities, their countries. Moreover, Muslims are now a swing vote not to be ignored.
proof it! good luck!
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And in every European city there are plans to build super-mosques that will dwarf every church in the region.
not in france
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all the text is an accumulation of lie or the half-truth in the only purpose to manipulate the idiots.
Hitler, 60 years ago, has convinced millions of people around the world that there were too many Jews and later that Jews should be exterminated, but if you want to support a new hitler, you're free of your choice.
yesterday, i wanted to lock the thread, i didn't it and i was wrong.
Well like anyone living in a democratic country Wilders is entitiled to his opinion is he not?
When did I say otherwise? I grow weary of you twisting my words. Nothing ever changes with you does it? Seriously, grow up.
Wilders is entitled to say what he pleases but, as with anyone who expresses certain points of view, he must live with the consequences of breaking EU law. One of those consequences is the right of refusal of entry to other EU member states. In the same week he was refused entry to Britain, Fred Phelps was also refused entry. I also believe that several Muslim extremists were also refused entry. Presumably you disagree with the former but not the latter?
Originally Posted By: 1oldminer
btw matt please remove your sig, you did not ask for my permission to use it.
I credited the source so no rules or laws broken. What is the problem? Don't you want your pearls of wisdom spread as far and as wide as possible?
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Let's not forget that by his own admission, 1oldminer knows nothing about Geert Wilders. I think we Commie Euros are more qualified to discuss Geert Wilders, a person with whom we are all familiar, than somebody from North America who did not even hear his name until a few days ago and hasn't bothered to research him.
Originally Posted By: 1oldminer
Well like anyone living in a democratic country Wilders is entitiled to his opinion is he not? While his views may seem far fetched, but he is not all that far from the truth.
Near as I can tell the only thing I do disagree with his advocation on the banning of the Koran. Still some here would advocate banning the bible and removing the word God from all public buildings.Is that not just as bad as Wilders is being made out to be?
as far I know it is not just the Christian's words to be removed from public buildings BUT the words from ALL religious groups
Originally Posted By: 1oldminer
How many suicide bombing attacks were done by christian or jewish terrorist groups against innocent muslims? How many organized judeo/chrisian terrorist groups can you find as opposed to how many terrorist groups operating under the umbrella of islam?
and How should the world deal with the Muslims ??????????????
Originally Posted By: 1oldminer
How many more homegrown bombings attacks is it going to take to convince you euopeans have a very serious problem with the muslim population.
and How should Europe deal with the Muslims ??????????????
Originally Posted By: 1oldminer
I believe that rampant political correctness more than anything else is going to lead to Europe's ruin and downfall.
btw matt please remove your sig, you did not ask for my permission to use it.
and How should North America deal with the Muslims ??????????????
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David Ben Gurion (the first Israeli Prime Minister): "If I were an Arab leader, I would never sign an agreement with Israel. It is normal; we have taken their country. It is true God promised it to us, but how could that interest them? Our God is not theirs. There has been Anti - Semitism, the Nazis, Hitler, Auschwitz, but was that their fault ? They see but one thing: we have come and we have stolen their country. Why would they accept that?"
When did I say otherwise? I grow weary of you twisting my words. Nothing ever changes with you does it? Seriously, grow up.
Oh well so nice to have you back matt, I see that married life hasn't tarnished the vitriolism within you.
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Wilders is entitled to say what he pleases but, as with anyone who expresses certain points of view, he must live with the consequences of breaking EU law. One of those consequences is the right of refusal of entry to other EU member states. In the same week he was refused entry to Britain, Fred Phelps was also refused entry. I also believe that several Muslim extremists were also refused entry. Presumably you disagree with the former but not the latter?
On what grounds was he barred from entering Britain other than own personal opinions concerning muslims? Has he or he not advocated violence or erradication towards muslims?
If Wilders or Phelps were barred from entering british soil because of thier personal opinions alone then I would be more worried about rampant political correctness running the country if I were you.
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I credited the source so no rules or laws broken. What is the problem? Don't you want your pearls of wisdom spread as far and as wide as possible?
I care not how you intepret my quote matt, the fact remains you didn't ask for permission.
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and How should the world deal with the Muslims ??????????????
That is entirely up to muslims to decide..to carry on with hatred and intolerance towards non-muslims and Isreal or choose to accept and embrace peace and do away with the sword and build a better life for themselves and thier children.
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and How should Europe deal with the Muslims ??????????????
When in Rome do as the romans do cable...
It will be a two way manner, muslims living in european countries must learn to adapt to the culture and euros will likely be more accepting of them as long as they abide by the laws of the land and not by Sharia Law and live peacably among the european society.
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and How should North America deal with the Muslims ??????????????
Same as they would be living in Europe.Muslims coming into America or Canada are always welcome as any other legal immigrants.However when choosing to come to Canada or America, they must abide by the laws of Canada or of America. Any muslim inciting violence or other illegal activity should be immediately deported back to the country of origin.If they want to live in peace by all means they are most welcome.
Simple as that.
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Oh well so nice to have you back matt, I see that married life hasn't tarnished the vitriolism within you.
It is "vitriol". And I see you are still the master at avoiding the issues.
Originally Posted By: 1oldminer
On what grounds was he barred from entering Britain other than own personal opinions concerning muslims? Has he or he not advocated violence or erradication towards muslims?
Incited to hatred and violence are against the law. End of.
Originally Posted By: 1oldminer
If Wilders or Phelps were barred from entering british soil because of thier personal opinions alone then I would be more worried about rampant political correctness running the country if I were you.
But not Muslim extremists? You think Phelps and Wilders are entitled to more free speech than Muslim extremists?
They broke the law. End of.
Originally Posted By: 1oldminer
I care not how you intepret my quote matt, the fact remains you didn't ask for permission.
I sourced the text, ergo no rules were broken. You can politely request I remove it, but I can politely refuse.
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#2321719 - 11/19/0907:07 PMRe: A dutch member of parliament warning of Islamazation of Europe
[Re: The_Amber_Spyglass]
DeepAtSea
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you know 1old, that most of the muslims of france live as the others french (smoke, drink some alcohol, f*ck, study, work...) but as usual we show a minority of persons which are a problem for the western countries and we make as if they were the majority.
btw... my friend can you put the link to the website where you found this article, i'm very curious to visit it, thanks.
#2322923 - 11/20/0903:16 AMRe: A dutch member of parliament warning of Islamazation of Europe
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bubblebliss
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Originally Posted By: 1oldminer
Originally Posted By: matt75
Let's not forget that by his own admission, 1oldminer knows nothing about Geert Wilders. I think we Commie Euros are more qualified to discuss Geert Wilders, a person with whom we are all familiar, than somebody from North America who did not even hear his name until a few days ago and hasn't bothered to research him.
Well like anyone living in a democratic country Wilders is entitiled to his opinion is he not? While his views may seem far fetched, but he is not all that far from the truth.
Near as I can tell the only thing I do disagree with his advocation on the banning of the Koran. Still some here would advocate banning the bible and removing the word God from all public buildings.Is that not just as bad as Wilders is being made out to be?
How many suicide bombing attacks were done by christian or jewish terrorist groups against innocent muslims? How many organized judeo/chrisian terrorist groups can you find as opposed to how many terrorist groups operating under the umbrella of islam?
How many more homegrown bombings attacks is it going to take to convince you euopeans have a very serious problem with the muslim population.
I believe that rampant political correctness more than anything else is going to lead to Europe's ruin and downfall.
btw matt please remove your sig, you did not ask for my permission to use it.
I think you're forgetting the fact that Europe has not had a single terrorist attack before the Iraq war. The only terrorist attacks in Europe were because of the country's involvement in Iraq.
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