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#2298347 - 11/07/09 07:40 PM Re: The use of radioactive uranium in Israeli military operations [Re: 1oldminer]
bubblebliss Offline
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Originally Posted By: 1oldminer
Originally Posted By: bubblebliss

If you find the thread offensive, don't open it.

If you find posts within it offensive, don't read them.

Easy as that. Nobody is forcing you to read these posts.


I have no problem with people with different opinions on the matter, such as yourself bubbles. I do find cable's historical viewpoints out of touch with reality.

cable2's posts are clearly based on propoganda, historical revisionism and anti-american and isreali sentiments. Clearly he has issues with America and Isreal.

I simply concurred what Pieman stated was the truth.

If cable2 is allowed to post such inflammortory propoganda, then why should others like Pieman,Texasblue or Grubber not be allowed to post thier views to counter them?



Well they are allowed to post their views on here so why wouldn't Cable be able to?

I admit that his posts are rather one sided, but I would not go as far as to call them Anti-American or Israeli.

He heavily criticises Bush for his war crimes and the same goes for Israel.
I have yet to hear 1 anti semitic remark or even anti Israeli remark on a personal level from Cable.
What he points out are violations against International law, something a lot of people on this board do not give a fart about unless it justifiies their views.
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#2298703 - 11/08/09 01:58 AM Re: The use of radioactive uranium in Israeli military operations [Re: Grubber]
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Originally Posted By: Grubber
...As long as *AHEM* people like YOU dont like me, I know i am doing something right.


I wouldn't jump to that conclusion.

Your premises are poorly defined and your conclusion is logically unsound.
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#2298964 - 11/08/09 08:09 AM Re: The use of radioactive uranium in Israeli military operations [Re: tgas2010]
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if your opinion carried any weight with me, I might, MIGHT take a second to think about that. As it is. I see who posted it and ignore it

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#2299822 - 11/08/09 06:22 PM Re: The use of radioactive uranium in Israeli military operations [Re: Grubber]
cable2 Offline
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Originally Posted By: Grubber
if your opinion carried any weight with me, I might, MIGHT take a second to think about that. As it is. I see who posted it and ignore it


Can't you just love the man wink
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#2299891 - 11/08/09 07:32 PM Re: The use of radioactive uranium in Israeli military operations [Re: 1oldminer]
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Quote:
the question is how much has America given to the Palestinians who's lands where stolen to make Isreal ????????


Originally Posted By: 1oldminer
So why hasn't the big oil arab nations like Saudi Arabia help thier downtrodden palastinian brothers with finiancial aid instead of getting aid from terrorist groups like Hamas?


O' Golly Gosh.................. me thinks we has been here many times before, have we not me old mate wink

as far me knows Saudi Arabia has given help to the Palestinians people............. they keep building and Israel keeps knocking them down............. O' and by the way Hamas is the democratically elected government of Palestine............. no matter what Israel says wink

Originally Posted By: 1oldminer
Where were the arab nations at the time when the people living in the region were susposedly were being kicked out of thier homes?


they where demanding to be heard............... but neither America or their UN took any notice of them ............... they had already made up their mind to imposed an Israel on Palestine.

Originally Posted By: 1oldminer
I don't recall the nieghbouring arab nation bothering to do anything at all to help them resettle, no they decided to attack the newly establish jewish state, simply because they could not tolerate having a jewish state in thier midst which by historical rights, had legitimate claim to the region.


"to help them resettle" resettle ???????????? why would they been any need to resettle from their homes on their land, if their homes and lands had not been given away ????????????

"by historical rights, had legitimate claim to the region" what historical rights???????????? the Jews where removed from Palestine by the Romans in 68 AD and have not been back as a entity until the American's gave them the land.......... it's like saying England should be given back to the Celts cos they lived there before the Angles and Saxons wink

Originally Posted By: 1oldminer
Palastine never existed and there was no such thing as a palastinian homeland or an ethnic group called palastinians, so your accusation that Isreal stole it off the palastinians is pure revisionist BS.


"Palastine never existed" never existed???????????? me thinks you never opened a history or geography book.......... there was a Palatine long before the Jews as a group came into the land from Egypt.......... it could well be argued that there was a Palatine long before the Jews left Iraq

"an ethnic group called palastinians" I think you will find the "ethnic group" called Palestinians also has a long history.......... a longer history then say the English wink
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David Ben Gurion (the first Israeli Prime Minister): "If I were an Arab leader, I would never sign an agreement with Israel. It is normal; we have taken their country. It is true God promised it to us, but how could that interest them? Our God is not theirs. There has been Anti - Semitism, the Nazis, Hitler, Auschwitz, but was that their fault ? They see but one thing: we have come and we have stolen their country. Why would they accept that?"

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#2299912 - 11/08/09 07:52 PM Re: The use of radioactive uranium in Israeli military operations [Re: 1oldminer]
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Originally Posted By: Grubber
considering the source......THANKS. As long as *AHEM* people like YOU dont like me, I know i am doing something right.


Originally Posted By: cable2
it's so sad that yet another thread Hijacked............ and turned into yet another battle over the bullying from our latest extreme right wing American raciest [ as Muslims can not be said to be a race you can't call me a raciest................ Jews in the 1930's could not be called a race, so you could not call anyone abusing them raciest ] waisted !


Originally Posted By: PieMan
How about you just not start these stupid propaganda threads in the first place? All you ever do is hate on Israel or hate on America. And then you have the nerve to accuse others of being bigots.


Originally Posted By: 1oldminer
Finally someone said the truth.


"stupid propaganda threads" stupid???????????? O' I did not think bringing your attention the breaking of the rule of law was such a stupid.......... and the use of banned weapons in built up civilian areas as an act of war, we all should agree is wrong .......... NO????????????

and do's this mean you guys are no longer me buddies wink
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David Ben Gurion (the first Israeli Prime Minister): "If I were an Arab leader, I would never sign an agreement with Israel. It is normal; we have taken their country. It is true God promised it to us, but how could that interest them? Our God is not theirs. There has been Anti - Semitism, the Nazis, Hitler, Auschwitz, but was that their fault ? They see but one thing: we have come and we have stolen their country. Why would they accept that?"

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#2300008 - 11/08/09 09:04 PM Re: The use of radioactive uranium in Israeli military operations [Re: cable2]
Grubber Offline
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Originally Posted By: cable2


"an ethnic group called palastinians" I think you will find the "ethnic group" called Palestinians also has a long history.......... a longer history then say the English wink




BZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZT

wrong answer, thanks for playing, you can leave now

there are NO palitinains, they were and still are Jordanians. But Jordan wont take them back.

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#2300067 - 11/08/09 09:39 PM Re: The use of radioactive uranium in Israeli military operations [Re: Grubber]
bubblebliss Offline
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_people

Are you saying there are no Kurds either? Are they just Turkish, Iraqi, etc.?
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- Graf Claus von Stauffenberg

"A really great man is known by three signs: generosity in the design, humanity in the execution, moderation in success"
- Otto von Bismarck

"An appeal to fear never finds an echo in German hearts."
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#2300274 - 11/08/09 10:50 PM Re: The use of radioactive uranium in Israeli military operations [Re: bubblebliss]
Grubber Offline
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sticking feathers up your ass doesnt make you a chicken

they are jordanian, no matter what they call themselves.

your own link contained this little Gem:

Palestinians have never exercised full sovereignty over the land in which they have lived.

Palestine was administered by the Ottoman Empire until World War I, and then by the British Mandatory authorities. Israel was established in parts of Palestine in 1948, and in the wake of the 1948 Arab-Israeli war, the West Bank and East Jerusalem were occupied by Jordan, and the Gaza Strip by Egypt, with both countries continuing to administer these areas until Israel occupied them during the 1967 war.

Avi Shlaim explains that the argument that "you never had sovereignty over this land, and therefore you have no rights," has been used by Israelis to deny Palestinian rights and attachment to the land

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#2300351 - 11/08/09 11:35 PM Re: The use of radioactive uranium in Israeli military operations [Re: Grubber]
bubblebliss Offline
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Well Nationality does not always equal your ethnic background.

Native Amerian Navajos are American, but that doesn't mean they're not Navajo as well.

Kurds have Turkish or Iraqi passwords, but they'll make it clear to you that they're neither Turkish nor Iraqi.

And it's true, Palestinians never had their own country, but they were the main inhabitants of the territory that is now Israel even though it was owned by other countries.

It's also a fact that the Jews had left that part of the world to pursue better fortunes in Europe during the Renaissance and earlier than that even.
Yet then they came back and claimed the land that was originally theirs. That's like Native Americans coming back and saying "Okay, joke's over. Let's clear this area because this is Navajo land now!"
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"It is now time that something was done. But the man who has the courage to do something must do it in the knowledge that he will go down in German history as a traitor. If he does not do it, however, he will be a traitor to his own conscience."
- Graf Claus von Stauffenberg

"A really great man is known by three signs: generosity in the design, humanity in the execution, moderation in success"
- Otto von Bismarck

"An appeal to fear never finds an echo in German hearts."
- von Bismarck

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