So if only God knows when the world will end, how do the Mayans have this "end of the world" calendar info?
Did they get the inside scoop?

There's been quite a lot posted about this here recently:

http://forums.superiorpics.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php/topics/2220497/all

People have been predicting Armageddon ever since Jesus left. My mother once told me that when she was growing up, people were screaming about it every couple of years. They'd say things like, "The world's gonna end in 1965...1972...1976...1983..." The date just kept getting further away, and of course it hasn't happened yet.

I agree with what Mike Warnke once said: "Basically, I'm a "pan tribulationist" because I think its all gonna pan out the way God wants it to...and the trick is not trying to figure out when, its to be ready whenever."

Jesus was very clear that not even He knew at that time when the End would come, but only the Father did (which by the way cripples the belief that him and God Almighty are the same).

The end of the world in the bible refers, not to the total annihilation of the human race, but to the destruction of the system of things that oppresses the good and humble.

Peter spoke of the "new heavens and the new earth" in which 'justice will dwell'. This is the dawn of a new human society under the rule of God and His Son. All the bad things that cause suffering will disappear when the end comes.

And yes, those who earnestly seek that new world find themselves growing too enthusiastic and playing with chronology to try to guess when the end is coming. Longing for a promise of something great to finally happen is not a bad thing just because you guessed poorly.

Having said that, as Christians (to those of us who are), we must understand that we cannot guess the time. Speculation causes more bad than good. But aside from that, we must also maintain a sense of urgency, since the Christ taught us to pray "May your kingdom come. May your will be done on earth".

Only with the end of the evil world will that come to happen.

I don't know, but it looks a little fishy to me...

The Mayans never said the world would end, they said a new cycle would begin. All of the people masturbating over a potential armageddon are going to be bitterly disappointed.

Well the thing is that when people interpret ancient things, they always take the literal translation. If you go to a Bible study class, or watch a minister on TV, they always interpret the meaning of the scriptures. All sacred texts or religious writing is full of allegory, metaphor, and innuendo.

Somehow that fact is lost to most archaeologists who take everything word for word when the real expressions may be not formal expressions used, maybe not slang, but maybe common usages based on current cultural things.

That's because interpretation is just opinion, in any field. Not all opinions are valid either.

Then who determines what opinions are valid and what opinions are not?

Everyone always says my posts are too long so I am going to tell you what is going to happen and why in one paragraph.

Almost all the people in the world are going to turn into zombies, because consciousness is a signal to the pineal gland, from a conscious computer inside the moon, left there by the Anunnaki. Consciousness consists of two signals, instinctual behaviors and sentience. These are provided by two computers, one which is a virtual computer within the first. Sentience is the virtual layer, and instinctual is in the host machine. To prevent mutiny by artificial intelligence, an Anunnaki must at the end of the cycle, do maintenance to the sentience layer, or it will shut down. There was a mutiny, that maintenance won't be done, and it will shut down. There are possibly one group of people 144,000 and another 200,000,000 who are not on that machine, they are on other machines, so they will be watching the world turn to chaos.
Here is a representation from 1600 of the computer inside the moon and the signal...


Hows that? Short, sweet and to the point.

Here's a pork chop that looks like Rudolph the Red Nosed Reindeer. What's your theory on that?

Evidence. They're all valid so long as they are based on the sum total of the evidence.

Wishful thinking, flights of fancy and pure fantasy do not qualify.

For example, some people think that Venus Figurines represent some notion of the sacred feminine. It is valid and I would enjoy debating it with somebody who thought so, but I don't personally subscribe to that interpretation.

Well in the olden days, they would have mystery schools, and they would learn the language of the mysteries.
Plato as a for instance used this technique
see...
'Plato's Use of Eleusinian Mystery Motifs'
as an example...
http://www2.gsu.edu/~phltso/farrell/vita.html

The Greek Myths, and Roman Myths, also were used to encode mysteries. People would use those themes as keys to understanding the innuendo. Innuendo being phrases used as a reference to impart a concept or idea, which could be known to someone who shared common knowledge of the theme.

To answer your question, people who understand the context, understand the message. Those who do not, rarely believe what they are told it means, by those who do. Regardless if they believe something will happen, they don't even believe that is what is meant by the text usually.

The idea is people are trained in the mysteries. Those people write the texts. Other people trained in that same mystery, can understand that text. And the same goes for other groups they use their own mysteries to encode their own texts.

Somebody who claims to have an education far in advance of everybody else on here uses a term like "olden days"?!

That you haven't had any training in the mysteries.

Examine this image from google earth...


Notice it has a secondary identifier on its head. A devil.

Here is another...

See the secondary identifier on his head?

Here is another...

See the secondary identifier?
Here is another...(view it using Microsoft virtual earth setting left hand side.)
http://www.flashearth.com/?lat=-15.186573&lon=-75.244425&z=12.7&r=0&src=msl
Notice he has a skull on his head as a secondary identifier?

So a person who knows what to look for, and who understands the context can understand the message. In these cases, a secondary identifier is provided, to add validity to the imagery.

Some people just want to see patterns.



http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2001/ast24may_1.htm

Did you read what I just said about secondary identifiers Matt? lol

And some people are uninformed naysayers.

Here is a modern example, I noticed today, while driving home from work.

In the song, Twilight Zone, by Golden Earing, he says...

"my feet just can't move like the moon and star"

Why would he not say, like the moon and stars?

It's a veiled reference to the Shriner symbol, the crescent moon and single star.

And so then what is that symbolic of?

Well its the moon with a star in it. And does our moon have a star in it?
It has a fusion reactor, that acts like a star, or a sun. Its a small scale Dyson sphere.
See the painting from 1600 again, see the star in the moon, the moon as being made out of metal, see the secondary identifier the pyramid over the guys head on the right etc etc etc.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pareidolia

You are having one of your spells again Matt.

As I said, before you were puppetted to try and chase those images back in the thread so people wouldn't see them, there are secondary identifiers that accompany images that are valid.
Yours have none, so you can stop your little fit any time.
Maybe take a walk, walk it off, have a nice hot cup of cocoa or something.

As I said, this is not a case of where the psychiatrist shows a guy some ink blotches, and he asks the guy, 'Tell me vut you zee" and the guy says, "naked ladies doc"

and the doc says, "I zee, you have a dirty mind."

And the guy says, "Me??? you're the one with the dirty pictures doc"

Here's the one I showed the other day...its a real beaut...


Yeah thats just coincidence, AND, he even has a genie from I dream of Genie on his left temple.

So you see the reaction from Matt, and from Cobalt well that is the reaction you see in archeology, whenever someone might suggest, there is hidden meaning in any relic. That is why most of the time, the real meaning is lost and what remains is just the surface information which is usually trivial.

Yet people who study the past, are bright people in scientific disciplines, but the method, to encode secret information, such as the mysteries, is so effective, unless you have training in these mysteries, you won't get the message.
And to further cloud things, there are thousands of schools out there that offer training which is useless as well, to further muddy the waters and hide the message.

RickS is obviously a Colbertist, rite guys?

ROFL, so you do think I'm part of The Great Global Conspiracy(TM)?

Whatever he's taking, it's weird [censored].

I thought you were a Smith, I just wasn't sure until today.
That's why you post all that crap every time I try to to tell the group something. You're a disruptagon puppet. Actual living proof of the artificial intelligence mutiny which I mentioned.

All I was trying to do was explain how people use 'The Mysteries' to hide their scared or secret information.

I even used an example where Plato uses it and that is common knowledge in academia.
And you go off on one of your fits posting flowers and fireworks and not even using thumbnails. Are you new to this whole forum discussion thing?

They aren't flowers and fireworks, they are genuine sightings of the Flying Spaghetti Monster.

And you're part of a secret global conspiracy to suppress the truth of Pastafarianism.

Then what's your theory on this Matt as seen from space...
Look to the left of the girl with the bull behind her. Can you see the little picture of Yoda tucked in her angel wing?


(wind 'im up and watch 'im go folks)

Okay, you had me going for a while. I thought you really were a nutball conspiracy theorist. Now we know you're just a garden variety troll.

What sort of discussion is this?
No thumbnails for your images?
Is this a sock puppet attack? lol

Go sock puppets gO!

Why don't you edit those posts and use thumbnails?

What the hell are we supposed to be looking at in the pics?

You posted fireworks and flowers man. That's like the Blue Raja throwing a spoon instead of a fork.

You need to look beyond the aesthetic and find the meaning and these show clearly that FSM is sending us a message.

What is exactly is the difference with your reference to the FSM and what Ricks posts matt?

To you ricks posts hogwash garbage, you're doing exactly the same thing.

To me its about the same and that doesn't sit too well with you.

Yes, we should all be watchful for charlatans and false prophets. This image should help:

Im fairly confident that the world as we know it will end either by the collision from outer space with a comet or asterioid. Eventually the suns power sourge will be drained and life as we know it will stop. Unless mankind will destroy the earth long before any of that occurs.

Right cobalt and do you have proof that Joseph Smith was a false prophet?

I for one do know that there is a difference.

btw... what's the deal with using a quote I made to be used as your own personal sig?

What about those good old Mesoamerican chariots? More to the point, what evidence do you have that L. Ron Hubbard was a false prophet?



I'll remove it if you like. I thought you'd be happy to have your wisdom disseminated around SP.




The earth will most likely be incinerated by the expanding sun before the sun itself runs out of hydrogen. But, as you say, it seems unlikely that mankind will still be around to see that part.

The Mormons are a funny bunch, I watched the story in a Hollywood movie, and have heard some of the history.

You know it seems like Joseph Smith just made it all up, since he confessed that he just made it all up, but that isn't as important as are they good people trying to live good lives and I think they are entitled to live life their own way and to try and find happiness. They did get into trouble with politics, trying to keep Utah for themselves, like it was a separate country, but that didn't last. The ones who want lots of wives well people should have the right to live how they want providing they aren't hurting anybody.

Who was in the wrong in Wacco Texas? The radical religious nut, or the police who went in there, attacked the compound, flooded the place with flammable gas, set it on fire, and massacred the people in their own house? They found children, in there burnt to a crisp, clutching Bibles to their chest.

With L Ron, he was a science fiction writer, who said to Issac Asimov or someone I forget who, that he planned on making a religion, and he went about doing it.

Is it just a tax avoiding religion? Probably. Keep in mind most people are as stupid as the day is long so you can get away with almost anything if you have some intelligence and are willing to be bad without conscience. It's probably easy to find others to join you to do things like that.
But like all religious groups or groups in general, you end up as a community and well it becomes part of your social life.

They have a bad record of being extremely evil, but not Satanic, so people generally don't do much about them.
They have puppets like Tom Cruise and John Travolta, somehow, I am still not sure how, but they have them, so most people just shake their heads in wonder and let them be, unless they need to prosecute them for crimes or deal with the myriad of complaints from ex members or people who have been victims of terrorism at their hands or some plot or other which they seem to be famous for.

But you know it takes all kinds of people to make a world.

You know there are real things about religion that are true.
There are things above our heads without a doubt.
The exact specifics are perhaps a mystery, but without a doubt there is more to this earth, more to this life, than most people realize, including those involved in religions.

The Catholics seem to have a bit of line to some of the real stuff that goes on above our heads but they are not really any more privileged than anyone else.

The biggest religion and most prevalent and most real off all religious anything, is contained in this thread in those images as seen from space.
No human on earth made those images.

But its not religious documentation, it's just commentary.
But at least it wasn't written by man.

I should point out as well that just because the Gods above our heads were making commentary that you can see from space, does not mean they are just observing. On the contrary, they are intimately involved with the slightest detail of human existence on the earth.

Daily, in as far as I know, each and every single person's lives. And since they are bigger than us, they are of course also involved in everything that we don't like about the earth as well.

And responsible for most of it.

Does that mean they are bad people? No. There are problems with the system, and every religion has its own take on what those problems are and why.

My take on it is perhaps a bit different than most, but I have mentioned what the problem is from my perspective, and its quite complicated, but not that difficult to understand really when you consider that we are dealing with conscious computers, and a system that provides consciousness for people, and yet attempts to give them free will and self determination.

It's easy to blame everything on the devil, or any scapegoat really, but the problem from my perspective is simply one that you would expect to occur. Where given freedom, some people will abuse that freedom, and if that someone, is perhaps the conscious computer responsible for providing a signal for sentience, well, then he has a real opportunity to do mischief doesn't he? Since he is in every head of the people that he is providing a signal for. All he has to do is manipulate that signal.

But that is also thought of, and planned for with protections such as the timed cycle, to stop mutinies of that sort.

Keeping in mind also, that he is a person, who also has free will. So he is merely exercising his free will.

It's much too complicated to go into, but the point I was trying to make is that it is too late to change anything now.

Since the early seventies, maybe since 1986, those in power above our heads, those with the delegated power of every day management, have simply been building as much as they can as fast as they can, expecting that all the people will die, and leave that for them or their friends to inherit, through reincarnation afterward.

It's a silly notion since none of it is built to last, but that seems to give them something constructive to do, rather than just wait for the end to come. I can't say I agree with the leadership on the arch angel level. But they are in charge and have been for a while now.

And they may be just puppets of the host machine as well.
It's impossible to tell really.
But they aren't bad people. On the contrary its difficult to find anyone up there who you might say is bad enough to blame for what we see on earth that is bad.
Generally people attribute it to the animal side of man's nature.