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#2212990 - 09/28/09 06:04 AM Re: I still believe in God [Re: The_Amber_Spyglass]
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In one of the podcasts that I download (instead of going to a Church) the speaker said it's not what you know, it's who you know.

It's not the prophecy that is significant. It is the source of the prophecy that is.

As can be said I don't worship scripture or the prophecies that are in the Bible. I worship the one who gave them.
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#2212992 - 09/28/09 06:07 AM Re: I still believe in God [Re: Crux Australis]
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So it doesn't matter that there are many failed prophecies, so long as you can make one or two fit actual events that actually occurred, no matter how tentative the link? And somehow, these tentative predictions prove the source? Even a stopped clock shows the correct time twice a day.
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#2212998 - 09/28/09 06:19 AM Re: I still believe in God [Re: The_Amber_Spyglass]
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I don't consider any prophecy to have failed. We aren't at the end of human history yet.

As I said it's not the prophecy but the original source that is important.

But of course if you don't believe in God or the supernatural none of this would make any sense anyway.
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#2213001 - 09/28/09 06:37 AM Re: I still believe in God [Re: Crux Australis]
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Oh it makes sense to me, it makes perfect sense and that is why I think it is nonsense.

The common ideas that non-believers "don't get it" is a common one and quite false. More often than not we do get it and getting it is the very reason for our rejection of it.
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#2213674 - 09/28/09 03:55 PM Re: I still believe in God [Re: The_Amber_Spyglass]
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You not getting the prophecy about the fall of Babylon, then?

Were it the other way around, you'd be saying I'm cherrypicking.
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#2213884 - 09/28/09 05:01 PM Re: I still believe in God [Re: WesMordine]
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What would that prophecy be then?

Odd that you are responding to me Wes because as I stated on the Staffordshire hoard, you seem to have me on ignore?


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#2213939 - 09/28/09 05:26 PM Re: I still believe in God [Re: The_Amber_Spyglass]
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I put you on ignore a long time ago, but I always click anyway.

I just never got around to remove you from the ignore list. I'm lazy.
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#2214092 - 09/28/09 06:03 PM Re: I still believe in God [Re: The_Amber_Spyglass]
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Originally Posted By: matt75
Oh it makes sense to me, it makes perfect sense and that is why I think it is nonsense.

The common ideas that non-believers "don't get it" is a common one and quite false. More often than not we do get it and getting it is the very reason for our rejection of it.


Indeed. I think that most non-believers understand the Bible better than most believers. I do not believe in the Bible because I find it both absurd and cruel.

Originally Posted By: WesMordine
You not getting the prophecy about the fall of Babylon, then?


The ''prophecy'' was only backed up in the Bible so that is simply circular reasoning.
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#2214195 - 09/28/09 06:20 PM Re: I still believe in God [Re: Angantyr]
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And no doubt a self-fulfilling prophecy too. Both are valueless.
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#2214395 - 09/28/09 07:14 PM Re: I still believe in God [Re: The_Amber_Spyglass]
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Really?

Ok. I didn't know that.

[*sarcasm*]
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