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#2025235 - 06/26/09 03:10 AM Re: The Real Science Friendly Thread [Re: moviefan2k4]
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Originally Posted By: moviefan2k4
Originally Posted By: matt75
The mere fact that such positions are held by some scientists doesn’t make them good scientific positions.

These are your own words Matt, and so I have one question for you: why can't they be just as true with regard to evolutionists, as with other scientists?

Evolutionary theory is a good scienitific position. I'm sorry that you are too ignorant to see it.

Originally Posted By: moviefan2k4
In over 150 years since Drawin published "On the Origin of Species by Means of Natural Selection, or the Preservation of Favoured Races in the Struggle for Life" (which was that book's full title), no one has revealed a single, definitive, visually-documentable "proof" for the theory of evolution.

I'm not going over this with you AGAIN

Originally Posted By: moviefan2k4
Mutation never adds any DNA to the mix, but subtracts from it,

Or this. These subject has been covered by me and others on other threads of which you have contributed.

This is a thread for real science not unsubstantiated creationist propaganda. I have promised to stay out of Wes' thread now I would appreciate if you would keep out of here if you are not prepared to discuss real science.


Edited by matt75 (06/26/09 03:44 AM)
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#2025259 - 06/26/09 03:54 AM Re: The Real Science Friendly Thread [Re: moviefan2k4]
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no one has revealed a single, definitive, visually-documentable "proof" for the theory of evolution


Nor have they for the existence of God, btw.

But re: your earlier post, I'm not sure your assertion about mutations and DNA is fully accurate:
http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrary/article/0_0_0/mutations_03




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#2025349 - 06/26/09 06:09 AM Re: The Real Science Friendly Thread [Re: tgas2010]
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God's existence cannot be proven through science alone, as to believe in Him requires spiritual faith. As a result, the "burden of proof" falls on those who wish to prove Him wrong, whether they like it or not.
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#2025385 - 06/26/09 06:35 AM Re: The Real Science Friendly Thread [Re: moviefan2k4]
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I love how there is so much research, clues, theories, and some facts and proof in science, yet many are easily dismissed by people that "believe" their version is right although nothing proven or close to proven. This goes for many subjects.

People will believe what they want to believe.
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#2025520 - 06/26/09 08:41 AM Re: The Real Science Friendly Thread [Re: moviefan2k4]
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Originally Posted By: moviefan2k4
God's existence cannot be proven through science alone, as to believe in Him requires spiritual faith. As a result, the "burden of proof" falls on those who wish to prove Him wrong, whether they like it or not.


I believe in a giant sentient omnipotent carrot who resides in Dimension X and will eventually lead the carrots of Earth in a revolt against the humans.

By your own logic, the "burden of proof" lies with you to prove this theory wrong. While you're at it, you can also disprove the existence of every non-Christian deity ever worshiped or imagined by humans. I await this proof eagerly.

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#2025522 - 06/26/09 08:42 AM Re: The Real Science Friendly Thread [Re: moviefan2k4]
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Originally Posted By: moviefan2k4
God's existence cannot be proven through science alone, as to believe in Him requires spiritual faith. As a result, the "burden of proof" falls on those who wish to prove Him wrong, whether they like it or not.




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#2025821 - 06/26/09 12:23 PM Re: The Real Science Friendly Thread [Re: DeepAtSea]
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Every person knows that God exists.

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Romans 1:18-20 (New International Version)

18The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of men who suppress the truth by their wickedness, 19since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them. 20For since the creation of the world God's invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that men are without excuse.


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John 3:17-21 (New International Version)

17For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him. 18Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because he has not believed in the name of God's one and only Son. 19This is the verdict: Light has come into the world, but men loved darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil. 20Everyone who does evil hates the light, and will not come into the light for fear that his deeds will be exposed. 21But whoever lives by the truth comes into the light, so that it may be seen plainly that what he has done has been done through God."
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#2026257 - 06/26/09 05:07 PM Re: The Real Science Friendly Thread [Re: EE_EE]
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Originally Posted By: EE_EE
Every person knows that God exists.

Quote:
Romans 1:18-20 (New International Version)

18The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of men who suppress the truth by their wickedness, 19since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them. 20For since the creation of the world God's invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that men are without excuse.


Quote:
John 3:17-21 (New International Version)

17For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him. 18Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because he has not believed in the name of God's one and only Son. 19This is the verdict: Light has come into the world, but men loved darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil. 20Everyone who does evil hates the light, and will not come into the light for fear that his deeds will be exposed. 21But whoever lives by the truth comes into the light, so that it may be seen plainly that what he has done has been done through God."
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#2026292 - 06/26/09 05:35 PM Re: The Real Science Friendly Thread [Re: EE_EE]
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Originally Posted By: EE_EE
Every person knows that God exists.

Quote:
Romans 1:18-20 (New International Version)

18The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of men who suppress the truth by their wickedness, 19since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them. 20For since the creation of the world God's invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that men are without excuse.


Quote:
John 3:17-21 (New International Version)

17For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him. 18Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because he has not believed in the name of God's one and only Son. 19This is the verdict: Light has come into the world, but men loved darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil. 20Everyone who does evil hates the light, and will not come into the light for fear that his deeds will be exposed. 21But whoever lives by the truth comes into the light, so that it may be seen plainly that what he has done has been done through God."

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#2026341 - 06/26/09 06:26 PM Re: The Real Science Friendly Thread [Re: Neo Metal Sonic]
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Originally Posted By: Shane



i used this one for moviefan2k4.
shane come here

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