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#2042713 - 07/04/09 11:10 AM Re: Homosexuality and Diversity Debate [Re: ace77777]
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Originally Posted By: ace77777
so? America is not a christian nation and never was, nor was it found on "judeo christian" values.


Not to mention the fact that few towns or cities even had any churches.
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#2043058 - 07/04/09 04:44 PM Re: Homosexuality and Diversity Debate [Re: ace77777]
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Originally Posted By: ace77777
Originally Posted By: dblboggie

they press the attack on to the last remaining vestige of Judeo/Christian tradition left standing regarding this institution

so? America is not a christian nation and never was, nor was it found on "judeo christian" values.


People choos to ignore that part and concentrate on the fact that the founding fathers were Christians which somehow gives them the right to place Christianity over all the other religions in this country.
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#2043160 - 07/04/09 05:51 PM Re: Homosexuality and Diversity Debate [Re: bubblebliss]
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I'm just curious.... how do Christians try to place Christianity over other religions in this country?

Remember, i'm not religious either.

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#2043182 - 07/04/09 06:01 PM Re: Homosexuality and Diversity Debate [Re: TexasBlue]
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Well, I recall the Republican from Georgia that was an advocate for putting the 10 Commandments in schools, and when asked to name the 10 Commandments, he couldn't name a single one.
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#2043288 - 07/04/09 06:27 PM Re: Homosexuality and Diversity Debate [Re: bubblebliss]
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Our founding fathers were not christian, most of them anyway.

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#2043295 - 07/04/09 06:29 PM Re: Homosexuality and Diversity Debate [Re: bubblebliss]
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Just compare it to the historically non-Christian countries of the world. There's a reason why tens of millions of people scrambled to emigrate here immediately after the immigration laws were changed in the sixties.
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#2043304 - 07/04/09 06:32 PM Re: Homosexuality and Diversity Debate [Re: ace77777]
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Originally Posted By: ace77777
Our founding fathers were not christian, most of them anyway.


You are completely delusional if you believe Christianity wasn't the dominant cultural force in America from the beginning.
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#2043430 - 07/04/09 07:23 PM Re: Homosexuality and Diversity Debate [Re: bubblebliss]
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Originally Posted By: bubblebliss
Well, I recall the Republican from Georgia that was an advocate for putting the 10 Commandments in schools, and when asked to name the 10 Commandments, he couldn't name a single one.


Lemme have that story so i can read about it.

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#2043755 - 07/04/09 10:05 PM Re: Homosexuality and Diversity Debate [Re: TexasBlue]
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The majority of the Founding Fathers were deists. Now, deism is a bit tricky. Some deists could be considered Christians, although not in the traditional sense. For example, they usually didn't believe in such superstitions as miracles, prophecies, or the Trinity. Some (notably Thomas Jefferson) rejected the idea of Jesus's divinity. And some rejected Christianity altogether as outright superstition.

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#2043949 - 07/04/09 11:01 PM Re: Homosexuality and Diversity Debate [Re: EE_EE]
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Originally Posted By: ace77777
Our founding fathers were not christian, most of them anyway.


You are completely delusional if you believe Christianity wasn't the dominant cultural force in America from the beginning.
Art. 11. As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Tripoli#Article_11

pass a high school history course

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