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#2040134 - 07/02/09 08:34 PM Re: Is the trigger for Armageddon near? [Re: JT]
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Originally Posted By: JT
I hate to ask this question, but how many ways of Armageddon is described in the Bible? I thought the Bible story was a final war between Jesus and Satan. Not Global warming, Kim Jong Il, or Palestinians/Israelis. And since when can the Bible tell the future? Other than vague statements like the Kingdom shall blah blah blah.


Three of the four horsemen of the Apocalypse bring famines, plagues, and war. These are also the consequences of climate change. As for evidence of the accuracy of bible predictions click here. See also Psalm 83:4.
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#2040308 - 07/02/09 10:29 PM Re: Is the trigger for Armageddon near? [Re: EE_EE]
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The word Armageddon only appears once in the Scriptures on Revelation 16: 16, from Hebrew, meaning “Mountain of Megiddo”.

Excerpts from "Insight On the Scriptures".

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There does not appear to have been a literal place called “Mountain of Megiddo,” either inside or outside the Promised Land, before or during the days of the apostle John, who recorded the vision. Hence, Har–Magedon evidently draws its significance from the events associated with the ancient city of Megiddo.

Megiddo was situated a few miles SE of Mount Carmel, overlooking and dominating the Plain of Esdraelon (Jezreel) and controlling major N-S and E-W trade and military routes.

The Revelation account depicts the combined forces of the kings of the earth as being gathered “to the place [Gr., form of to;pos] that is called in Hebrew Har–Magedon.” (Re 16:16) In the Bible to;pos may refer to a literal location (Mt 14:13, 15, 35); to one’s opportunity, or “chance” (Ac 25:16); or to a figurative realm, condition, or situation (Re 12:6, 14). In view of the context, it is to a “place” in the last-mentioned sense that earth’s combined military powers are marching.

“The war of the great day of God the Almighty” at Har–Magedon was not some past event but is depicted in Revelation as future from the time of John’s vision. The gathering of the kings to Har–Magedon is described as being a result of the pouring out of the sixth of the seven bowls containing the “last” plagues that will bring to a finish the anger of God. (Re 15:1; 16:1, 12) Also, indicating that the war at Har–Magedon is closely associated with Christ’s presence is the warning of his coming as a thief, which is placed between verses 14 and 16 of Revelation chapter 16.

John says: “And I saw the wild beast and the kings of the earth and their armies gathered together to wage the war with the one seated on the horse and with his army.” (Re 19:19) This chapter identifies the leader of the heavenly armies, seated on a white horse, as one who is called “Faithful and True” and “The Word of God.” (Re 19:11-13) Therefore, it is Jesus Christ, The Word, who acts as the commander of God’s heavenly armies. (Joh 1:1; Re 3:14) Further showing that Christ leads the heavenly forces is the statement that the earthly forces “battle with the Lamb [who is Jesus Christ (Joh 1:29)], but, because he is Lord of lords and King of kings, the Lamb will conquer them. Also, those called and chosen and faithful with him will do so.”—Re 17:13, 14.

Har–Magedon is thus seen to be a fight, not merely among men, but one in which God’s invisible armies take part. Its coming is certain and it will take place at the time set by Jehovah God, who “is doing according to his own will among the army of the heavens and the inhabitants of the earth.”—Da 4:35; see also Mt 24:36.

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Hope that helps!


Edited by WesMordine (07/02/09 10:43 PM)
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#2040778 - 07/03/09 04:20 AM Re: Is the trigger for Armageddon near? [Re: EE_EE]
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Originally Posted By: EE_EE
Originally Posted By: matt75
Originally Posted By: EE_EE
P.S. don't let Matt's inevitable name calling bug you.

So long as he acts with the same respect he/she would expect in return there will be no problem.

phyl2653: Be careful not to incur the wrath of our resident sociopath EE_EE. If you disagree with him on anything he will call you a "bad seed", compare you to a paedophile and condemn you to hell. You see, only he has the correct interpretation of the bible and any deviation from that means you are a paedophilic fornicator with homosexual tendancies.



I genuinely believe you're a bad seed, Matt, because you support the most evil things and the Word of God is so foreign to you. I can't imagine you ever becoming a Christian and being saved but only God knows for sure. And I found the post where I compared you to John Evander Couey and what I said was that you will only fear (like he did) when judgment comes upon you and not before.


What you think on any subject is of so little consequence to me. You need professional help EE_EE and I pity you.
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#2041119 - 07/03/09 11:01 AM Re: Is the trigger for Armageddon near? [Re: matt75]
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Originally Posted By: matt75
What you think on any subject is of so little consequence to me. You need professional help EE_EE and I pity you.


Right back at ya.
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