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we gotta work an intelligent way.
lets' say you steal code from here. The code is changed to a picture of me in a French Maid's outfit whipping a another person in S and M gear
that would scare anyone from doing that
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Hotlinking is very common on the celeb sites, i wouldnt just say that other sites do it to us ... but that some of our posters do it as well.
People are getting tired of uploading, and I dont blame them, especially when some of these pictures are getting bigger and bigger in file size, and the sheer number of photos that have to be uploaded.
If anything, it would be wiser just to rename and tag all your uploaded photos with the words "superiorpics or www.sp.com" in it.
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Hotlinking is very common on the celeb sites, i wouldnt just say that other sites do it to us ... but that some of our posters do it as well.
People are getting tired of uploading, and I dont blame them, especially when some of these pictures are getting bigger and bigger in file size, and the sheer number of photos that have to be uploaded.
If anything, it would be wiser just to rename and tag all your uploaded photos with the words "superiorpics or www.sp.com" in it.
Thanks D-S. Just to clarify my original statement with regard to your comment, the sites I'm speaking of specifically are ones I've seen that literally have automated 'crawlers' that use our post titles as their own and list our thumb codes as their own direct links to posted files.
One I've found (not a forum/board) has all the posts of SP on it. It's all SP-content with their own look and feel. A complete 'rip' so to speak.
For Example, that site has all of my Patricia Heaton posts. I only post on SP. Evidence of their automated system.
So again to be clear, I COMPLETELY understand that forums 'share' ... no problem there. I am specifically referring to sites that are blatantly representing all of our content as their own.
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Quick update:
I'm currently implementing the simple TAG feature in FastStone Image Viewer (Advanced Options / Text) to add the words:
SuperiorPics.com - "Get the Best Pics FIRST!"
... to the top-left corner of all my Exclusive HQ posted pix. I use that program to rename all my pix anyways so the added automated step is quite painless.
I believe Cam or Cut thought up that slogan when we were initially batting around the "don't hotlink" thumbnail idea. Thanks again.
Doesn't prevent hot-linking but will hopefully add some exposure to the site and lead more new users to us.
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Just to chime in my own opinion on this subject, I think that hotlinking and image theft cannot be prevented at all. However, it will be discouraged if each hosted image is watermarked in the center. This in turn will also discourage original viewers here at SP. I make my own VidCaps and spend an awful lot of time doing so. I don't just randomly cap frames, but am very picky and very diligent about what I do. I actually view it as a work of art. This is the only celeb site that I post these VidCaps at (just did some tonight as a matter of fact).
A few years ago, I used to heavily post VidCaps of Beverley Mitchell, Heather Locklear, Megyn Price, Amanda Bynes, etc... and this was the only place I did so. I then stumbled upon a few other sites that were using my exact VidCaps and not mentioning where they came from at all. I even registered as a user at 1 particular site just to inform a poster who reposted a gathering of my Bev caps that I was the person who made them (to which this person was claiming them as his). I got so disgusted that I stopped for a while.
Thinking things have changed since then, I started making more VidCaps and posting them here again a few months ago. Unfortunately, I caught someone in the act again. I really enjoy making these for everyone to see so rather than stop all together, I've begun tagging each cap with my user name.
It's unfortunate that some people try to pass things off as their own, but that's the way of the world today. It can't be stopped.
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Just to chime in my own opinion on this subject, I think that hotlinking and image theft cannot be prevented at all. However, it will be discouraged if each hosted image is watermarked in the center. This in turn will also discourage original viewers here at SP. I make my own VidCaps and spend an awful lot of time doing so. I don't just randomly cap frames, but am very picky and very diligent about what I do. I actually view it as a work of art. This is the only celeb site that I post these VidCaps at (just did some tonight as a matter of fact).
It's unfortunate that some people try to pass things off as their own, but that's the way of the world today. It can't be stopped.
Image code snatching is preventable on vBulletin forums (with that additional script). It makes it so that when you quote a post the image links dont show up or don't show up entirely.
It is also alot of work to watermark every image. It's especially wrong because none of us owns the images posted (with little exceptions). Though I do understand caps and scans because it does take some time to make those images presentable.
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Just to chime in my own opinion on this subject, I think that hotlinking and image theft cannot be prevented at all. However, it will be discouraged if each hosted image is watermarked in the center. This in turn will also discourage original viewers here at SP. I make my own VidCaps and spend an awful lot of time doing so. I don't just randomly cap frames, but am very picky and very diligent about what I do. I actually view it as a work of art. This is the only celeb site that I post these VidCaps at (just did some tonight as a matter of fact).
It's unfortunate that some people try to pass things off as their own, but that's the way of the world today. It can't be stopped.
Image code snatching is preventable on vBulletin forums (with that additional script). It makes it so that when you quote a post the image links dont show up or don't show up entirely.
It is also alot of work to watermark every image. It's especially wrong because none of us owns the images posted (with little exceptions). Though I do understand caps and scans because it does take some time to make those images presentable.
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We don't like watermarking. Especially big and obvious ones. Our goal is to discourage taking posts and copying codes directly. Individual pics, once they are on the net, are going to make the rounds of websites and forums. Nothing can stop that.
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boones
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Interesting idea, but why not make it a link to the SP Forum itself? Like this: 
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[URL=http://forums.superiorpics.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php][IMG]http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/3258/visitsuperiorpicsdonthojj9.th.jpg[/IMG][/URL]
I totally understand the incentive with your modified approach DT however the types of site the thumbnail-link I designed was intended to discourage won't pick that up because it's not linked to an imagehost ... here's an actual example ...
Your recent "Mira Sorvino" post on a stealing site:

.. again this isn't for the sake of argument ... I wish your version worked too!!  
I still recommend using the following code for this type of approach - I believe it's more likely to work on the offending sites like the one illustrated above: (displays the thumb and links to the HQ version of the thumb)
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[URL=http://img182.imageshack.us/my.php?image=visitsuperiorpicsdonthojj9.jpg][IMG]http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/3258/visitsuperiorpicsdonthojj9.th.jpg[/IMG][/URL]
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<censored> Well, so much for that idea. I've got more screencaps planned in the near future, I'll try your code in those and we'll see how that works.
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Fark! I just checked that Celebrity123.com site and I don't think your code would work either Boones. If it was going to then they should have also picked up the copyright display pic I put in my screencap posts. But those aren't listed or shown there either.
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boones
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Fark! I just checked that Celebrity123.com site and I don't think your code would work either Boones. If it was going to then they should have also picked up the copyright display pic I put in my screencap posts. But those aren't listed or shown there either.
hmmm ... my guess is he is probably sifting through what his bot grabs before he posts maybe ... I am going to put it in some of my new posts to to see what happens too.
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That's pretty much what I was questioning at the beginning of this thread when Boones initially presented the idea. 
@ DT - did you place the copyright display pic at the very end or very start of the post, or put in somewhere in the middle?
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At the end. And the no-hotlinking thumbnail link at the beginning. I don't think that makes any difference. Bots aren't going to care where those are, they'll just pick up any and all links. Same with a human manually checking what a bot grabs, he(/she) is most likely just hitting "next" and "delete" buttons paging thru large batches so putting them in the middle won't matter.
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